Champagne Ringer and Butter Spinnerblast

What an awesome looking animal!

Really.. no one has heard of a high white pied?
http://www.alanboschreptiles.com/
http://www.rcreptiles.com/images/col...n/100_2286.jpg
This last one looks normal till you get to the white.
http://imageevent.com/publicgallery/...=0&w=4&s=0&z=9

I mean we can have other color morph pied such as the spied or spider pied
http://www.roussisreptiles.com/colle...lls/spied.html

a Mojo Pied
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=94767

I am only saying it can't be a ringer... too much white.
Why not simply call it a champagne pied??

Wow, The surprizes never end with ball pythons! Nice!

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Originally Posted by Montessa Python

Really.. no one has heard of a high white pied?
http://www.alanboschreptiles.com/
http://www.rcreptiles.com/images/col...n/100_2286.jpg
This last one looks normal till you get to the white.
http://imageevent.com/publicgallery/...=0&w=4&s=0&z=9

I mean we can have other color morph pied such as the spied or spider pied
http://www.roussisreptiles.com/colle...lls/spied.html

a Mojo Pied
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=94767

I am only saying it can't be a ringer... too much white.
Why not simply call it a champagne pied??

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Because you can't call something a pied unless it IS a pied.

But I agree that is one hot animal, very hard for me to call it a ringer. Perhaps there were some unknown hets with the parents floating around OR like that Pastel out of the Caramel clutch, this is a random new line of.. something. :P

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Originally Posted by Montessa Python

Really.. no one has heard of a high white pied?
http://www.alanboschreptiles.com/
http://www.rcreptiles.com/images/col...n/100_2286.jpg
This last one looks normal till you get to the white.
http://imageevent.com/publicgallery/...=0&w=4&s=0&z=9

I mean we can have other color morph pied such as the spied or spider pied
http://www.roussisreptiles.com/colle...lls/spied.html

a Mojo Pied
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=94767

I am only saying it can't be a ringer... too much white.
Why not simply call it a champagne pied??

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Because unless it's proven genetic, it's a ringer.. I believe. Unless I'm completely wrong. I'm also pretty sure if Brock called it a ringer, it's a ringer lol

Wow that is some crazy stuff!
Thanks for sharing.

Pieds have abberrant patterns which that one doesnt. It is very cool though!

wow.. now thats a ringer!!! But now we see what a champagne pied would possibly look like. and me like!! congrats on that. I also like the butter spinner blast.. the muted coloration is gorgeous.

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Originally Posted by Montessa Python

I am only saying it can't be a ringer... too much white.
Why not simply call it a champagne pied??

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It isn't a champagne piebald because it isn't a piebald. The white has nothing to do with what morph it is, the genetics are what determine what morph it is. There are lots of ringers out there, some have more white than others, none of which are genetic though.
Until you can prove this a piebald through breeding (unlikely as I don't think Brock has a bunch of hets laying around he didn't know where hets), then it's a ringer.

i have a fire that is a double ringer that i purchased from steve roussis. the entire clutch were all ringers. genetic? time will tell.

If there arent any pied genetics present, then its not a pied, it doesnt matter how much white is on the snake...

Anyways, that is a stunning snake!