Ugliest eggs ever!!!

Hmmm... I take it you have never seen anything like this before? Has this female ever laid for you before?

Myself, I have never had any P. Regius eggs, or any snake eggs at that, but I have seen something similar in other egg laying reptile species(breeding chameleons in my specific experience), and it normally means that there was a lack of calcium or UV provided to the mother during the egg development stage. I am not a BP expert by any means... But knowing that they do not require UV, I would be curious to know how their body processes calcium? I know that with the animals I work with, without proper UV exposure, their body does not process calcium into the stage where it is useful, IE. Bone strength, or egg production. And if a Gravid female is allowed to go her term with a lack of either the UV, or Calcium, the result is poorly calcified eggs, which bare a striking resemblance to your eggs.

If it is indeed poorly calcified eggs you have on your hands... they could be fertile(and those veins scream fertile IMO)... I would be curious to know what factors would contribute to this in a species that does not require UV or calcium supplementation as part of the husbandry regiment.

Any thoughts?

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Looks like the female didn't have enough calcium??

Good luck with hatching them out!

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Heather you beat me to it!

~Joe

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

Looks like the female didn't have enough calcium??

Good luck with hatching them out!

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Will/can they still develope?

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Originally Posted by SoCaliSon

Hmmm... I take it you have never seen anything like this before? Has this female ever laid for you before?

Myself, I have never had any P. Regius eggs, or any snake eggs at that, but I have seen something similar in other egg laying reptile species(breeding chameleons in my specific experience), and it normally means that there was a lack of calcium or UV provided to the mother during the egg development stage. I am not a BP expert by any means... But knowing that they do not require UV, I would be curious to know how their body processes calcium? I know that with the animals I work with, without proper UV exposure, their body does not process calcium into the stage where it is useful, IE. Bone strength, or egg production. And if a Gravid female is allowed to go her term with a lack of either the UV, or Calcium, the result is poorly calcified eggs, which bare a striking resemblance to your eggs.

If it is indeed poorly calcified eggs you have on your hands... they could be fertile(and those veins scream fertile IMO)... I would be curious to know what factors would contribute to this in a species that does not require UV or calcium supplementation as part of the husbandry regiment.

Any thoughts?

EDIT: Heather you beat me to it!

~Joe

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Good question!

I hear feeding mice helps with calcium problems......Good luck hatching them out......

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Originally Posted by spk329

I hear feeding mice helps with calcium problems......Good luck hatching them out......

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and if they are already on a mice/rat diet?

The theory with Mice is they will eat more as most Females do during the breeding process.....More Mice...More bones....More calcium.... If you feed young Rats the bones are not fully developed so the calcium is not as good as an adult mouse

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The theory with Mice is they will eat more as most Females do during the breeding process.....More Mice...More bones....More calcium.... If you feed young Rats the bones are not fully developed so the calcium is not as good as an adult mouse

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ahhh I see, well if you feed ASF's you are good then? and sm to med regular rats should be fine for calcium content

The female laid eggs for me two years ago and they looked normal. I had checked her the day before and no eggs and then yesterday, there were eggs. It is surprising that the eggs are so deflated looking. I can only surmise that as well as looking odd they don't hold moisture well. And no, there is no mold on them (yet) they actually feel pretty dry but kind of rubbery. I'm sure they are calcium deficient, I've had eggs before that were missing small patches like windows on them but never this much.

Just thought they were weird looking and that others might be interested.

And the pairing was a normal (though with a very busy dark pattern) female to a special project male.

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The female laid eggs for me two years ago and they looked normal. I had checked her the day before and no eggs and then yesterday, there were eggs. It is surprising that the eggs are so deflated looking. I can only surmise that as well as looking odd they don't hold moisture well. And no, there is no mold on them (yet) they actually feel pretty dry but kind of rubbery. I'm sure they are calcium deficient, I've had eggs before that were missing small patches like windows on them but never this much.

Just thought they were weird looking and that others might be interested.

And the pairing was a normal (though with a very busy dark pattern) female to a special project male.

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I hope all goes well.

Good luck with the eggs... I am curious to see what happens.

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Good luck with the eggs... I am curious to see what happens.

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Same here, best of luck with them, I hope they all make it and hatch out some healthy babies for ya. :)