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  • 06-12-2009, 04:43 PM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    Re:NEW PICS! Genetic possibilities??
    Ok here are recent pics of the hatchlings and the Pastel father taken last night. I just dont see how these can be your average pastels. The female clearly has the green eyes but the males eyes seem to be more of a blue/grey. Its hard to tell at this point but their markings and color are amazing in my eyes. This is after many feedings and 2 sheds. The father also has great coloring considering he will be 3 yrs old this yr.. So please just give some more of your advice if you think i may have anything.. By the way, the babies have clean and clear bellies as well.. These pics were taken last night with the newest model Fuji 12x optical w duel image stabilizer and excellent macro mode.. These are what my snakes look like..

    Here is the father 1.0-07 Pastel
    http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2.../MsPics012.jpg


    This is the 0.1-09 with normal green pastel eyes.
    http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...fMsPics007.jpg

    Here is the same 0.1-09
    http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2.../MsPics002.jpg

    This is the 1.0-09. His eyes look different to me.
    http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2.../MsPics006.jpg

    This is their mother. 0.1-03 "regular"
    http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2.../MsPics009.jpg

    Im beginning to think i should hold onto the father. I have a feeling there is a white snake in there somewhere. Wether it be in the babies or the parents.
  • 06-12-2009, 04:56 PM
    likebull1
    Re: Help w/genetic possibilities??
    It looks like a regular pastel to me, a nice one at that.:)
  • 06-12-2009, 10:27 PM
    SatanicIntention
    Re: Help w/genetic possibilities??
    I have the feeling they're just your average pastel. Since the mother is dark, they're going to be dark and therefore have the potential to be of poorer quality. The father is of average quality. My male pastel has silver eyes instead of the normal green. His belly is also not clear, he has green speckles all over. Some of his individual scales on his sides are black tipped and his offspring carry that on.

    Just because you got 5 out of 5 pastels doesn't mean a thing except for being lucky. Each egg has a 50% chance of having either a pastel or a normal. They could all have normals or could all have pastels, OR could be a mix of both. I had a clutch where 4 out of 6 were pastels. Not really a big deal, just the hand you were dealt.

    I have a normal adult female who looks like an Enchi, but she's not. She's very light, banded, clear belly, and green eyes. She also has the peach colored scales coming up from her belly. She's being bred to an Enchi this coming season so I can make some high quality Enchis(not those crappy ones you see that look like normals even up close).

    My Pastel male:
    http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...PICT0020-1.jpg
    http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...PICT0031-3.jpg

    His kids from 2 different moms.
    Darker mom(this girl is still bright yellow and probably about 1000g or more now):
    http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...PICT0046-1.jpg
    http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...y/PICT0048.jpg

    Lighter mom(Frankykeno has this girl)
    http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...PICT0016-3.jpg
    http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...PICT0015-1.jpg
    http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...PICT0009-9.jpg
  • 08-23-2009, 05:53 PM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    Re: Help w/genetic possibilities??
    Well, ive ruled out the possibility of the female in question being a sable. I do still think she may be a YB. I think im just going to breed her to a proven YB this year to try to prove that out. The male hatchling i originally held back was sold to a friend who desperately wanted him with a breed-back agreement. Im actually disappointed i didnt get any belly shot of him before i sold him. So now my plan is go visit him and get some new pictures of him with belly shots to see if he has the visible YB markings.

    Since he was so much brighter than the little female with a whiter top lip & much more blushing. Plus im being told he is retaining his yellow so far. Only seeing him in person & getting pictures will prove that to me tho.

    The female hold-back i have now looks like a black and orange snake. She has all but lost that glowing yellow she had as a hatchling. Now at 200 grams she looks like she will look like an average pastel with almost no top blushing.

    I finally got a very good digital camera and have posted new pics of her on my myspace page. As for the mother. She is in blue right now. Within the week i will take her outside for some new pictures of her and try to capture all the color (yellow) she has in her sides as well as her belly markings. Then i'll try to get those pics on here for some more opinions from you guys.
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