how long before I worry?

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Originally Posted by jrosen123

Try, live feeders like it was suggested in the previous post, make sure that u have at least 1 opaque hide on each side of the tank(cool and warm).

If you can, try a smaller enclosure (only if you have one) sometimes baby leos can get stressed out with too much room (sometimes).

If you get live feeders (crickets,mealworms etc.) try the "shake and bake" method with calcium powder. Also, you can try wax worms or butter worms (live).

But it is important to make sure your temps are good

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Unfortunately there are no live feeders to be had at any stores in my area until next week.

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Originally Posted by shadraak

all UTH's are too hot , that's why you use a thermostat or dimmer switch to regulate the heat, dimmer switches are made very easially, there's tutorials on here and on the net i've made several and they're very low cost, i think the only exp. part was the 6ft ext cord, and that's only like a few bucks.

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Thanks, I'll have to check into doing this. Although the UTH I have on my older leo's tank doesn't get all that super hot. Def not as hot as the one on the smaller leo's tank. Just a brand difference I suppose.

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Originally Posted by Snoopybdb

Thanks, I'll have to check into doing this. Although the UTH I have on my older leo's tank doesn't get all that super hot. Def not as hot as the one on the smaller leo's tank. Just a brand difference I suppose.

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You do not know since you do not measure your temps, you MUST know your temps you also MUST control your UTH (regardless of the brand) it will help you maintain proper temps and avoid overheating which could lead to burns.

Any heating source can overheat even those that technically do not get higher than 95 (which is false anyway since given the right condition they can achieve much more than that)

Control your heat source is VERY important you can do that with a thermostat or a lamp dimmer as previously suggested http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...-WH&lpage=none

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As for live feeders if you cannot get a steady supply locally you might want to order them online or breed them yourself. (I breed mealworms and it is very easy and low maintenance - I do not feed crickets)

Here are 2 suppliers you might want to check into

http://armstrongcrickets.com/shop/

http://luckylurecricketfarm.com/Stor...rtmentList.asp

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Originally Posted by Deborah

You do not know since you do not measure your temps, you MUST know your temps you also MUST control your UTH (regardless of the brand) it will help you maintain proper temps and avoid overheating which could lead to burns.

Any heating source can overheat even those that technically do not get higher than 95 (which is false anyway since given the right condition they can achieve much more than that)

Control your heat source is VERY important you can do that with a thermostat or a lamp dimmer as previously suggested http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...-WH&lpage=none

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As for live feeders if you cannot get a steady supply locally you might want to order them online or breed them yourself. (I breed mealworms and it is very easy and low maintenance - I do not feed crickets)

Here are 2 suppliers you might want to check into

http://armstrongcrickets.com/shop/

http://luckylurecricketfarm.com/Stor...rtmentList.asp

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You know, I hate to take the chance of makeing this thread take an ugly turn, BUT....I don't like your tone with me at the begining of your reply post(if a post can have a tone). The way it's worded is like you are trying to talk down to me as if I'm some idiot. When your first words are "You do not know...." is seems you are really saying"DUHH you idiot" (I've read other threads were you have been very rude with some posters, so I feel this is typical of you) We can not all be experts at everything and that's what I thought this forum was about. A place where inexperienced people can look for answers to their questions from more experience people without being made to feel like they are dumb. Maybe I'm wrong! In the future maybe you should think about HOW you are saying things to people. I've always said "It's not what you say but how you say it".

That being said, thank you for the info on the feeding sources.

You read too MUCH in my post what I wrote is just what I meant you do not know your temps since you do not measure them and I stress how important it is to measure them and controll them whether you do it or not is YOUR choice.

Now if you think there is any else than advice for the well being of your animal in my post than it is YOUR interpretation, but than again this is the internet.

If I wanted to say "you idiot" trust me I would say it so again you can interpret my post the way you want to interpret it is YOUR choice and YOUR interpretation

Anyway I am done here.

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Originally Posted by Snoopybdb

You know, I hate to take the chance of makeing this thread take an ugly turn, BUT....I don't like your tone with me at the begining of your reply post(if a post can have a tone). The way it's worded is like you are trying to talk down to me as if I'm some idiot. When your first words are "You do not know...." is seems you are really saying"DUHH you idiot" (I've read other threads were you have been very rude with some posters, so I feel this is typical of you) We can not all be experts at everything and that's what I thought this forum was about. A place where inexperienced people can look for answers to their questions from more experience people without being made to feel like they are dumb. Maybe I'm wrong! In the future maybe you should think about HOW you are saying things to people. I've always said "It's not what you say but how you say it".

That being said, thank you for the info on the feeding sources.

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YEAAA!!! I found some live crickets today at a local store and brought them home for the babies. I put some in and 1 of the babies ate 2 almost as soon as I put them in there. I didn't see the other on eat, but i left the rest in to give them some time with them.

live food...if they don't see it move they won't eat it...at least for your guys...I did once do the whole tying the crickets leg to a string thing (i was 15!)...and it worked...its a bit risky only because you have to tie it the right way so they won't eat the string...

I think i'm gonna get it for posting this...

I would reccomend keeping them on live food to help them eat better, you can always order off line a lot of places deliver live for cheap(you'll have to store them but you'll have them for a while. I can get 250 from my sourse for around $10 shipped and get them in 3 business days.

Another thing is if you know sand is so bad, get them off of it. Buy a dimmer and get some good substrait if you dont want them to become impacted and die from another reason. feeding them on sand is one of the best ways to get impacted b/c they arent accurate with catching crickets and get sand in they're mouth most of the time when eatting the live crickets