Proven Breeder?

You might get lucky either way. So long as you do everything 'right' you should get results, but who knows what the snake has in mind.

i think mainly, as some here have already said, "proven breeder" usually means they had a good clutch, little to no slugs, no eggbinding issues, etc... which would indicate a good healthy animal that is able to produce well, as opposed to a first time breeder or an animal that isn't very healthy will usually yeild diff. results.

I've always taken the proven breeder label to mean the girl has had a clutch, and that it's. Nothing implied about what she threw (eggs, vs slugs), or even how many, just that she had a successful clutch.

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Originally Posted by donkiez

assuming your a good snake keeper, would you say animals raised by you might be better breeders or more comfortable and ready to breed earlier than some random adult you just picked up?

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It can take up to a full year for a "proven breeder" or adult female to acclimate to a new environment. More often than not, they will not be receptive to breeding in the same season that you acquire them. Whenever possible, I do prefer to raise my own females from babies.

Keep in mind that each animal is unique, but this is generally the rule, rather than the exception. Just because you pick up a female that should be old enough and large enough to breed in the fall, doesn't mean that she's going to be acclimated enough to go for you that season.

Remeber too, if you buy a female to breed(or a male for that matter), you still have to take it through a quarentine period, which would help it settle in. Then it might breed right away, or it might take longer.

I go by the virgin, proven breeder, problem animal myself. I had one female, bought as proven breeder, and she refused to lay anything. Finally I was about to sell her as a problem breeder, when she laid me 11 eggs(all 11 hatched). Needless to say, she stayed!

Sometimes you do have to be patient with a snake. I have a cinnamon male who STILL hasn't got the idea of breeding down yet. I personally think he's gay.

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

I've always taken the proven breeder label to mean the girl has had a clutch, and that it's. Nothing implied about what she threw (eggs, vs slugs), or even how many, just that she had a successful clutch.

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A female should not be considered a proven breeder unless she has laid viable eggs that hatched.

I personally would consider anyhting else as misleading, it's one of the things I check when buying.

always questions someones definition of terms like "long term captive" and "proven breeder".

Everyone has their own take and some are frankly rediculous.

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Originally Posted by wolfy-hound

remeber too, if you buy a female to breed(or a male for that matter), you still have to take it through a quarentine period, which would help it settle in. Then it might breed right away, or it might take longer.

I go by the virgin, proven breeder, problem animal myself. I had one female, bought as proven breeder, and she refused to lay anything. Finally i was about to sell her as a problem breeder, when she laid me 11 eggs(all 11 hatched). Needless to say, she stayed!

Sometimes you do have to be patient with a snake. I have a cinnamon male who still hasn't got the idea of breeding down yet. I personally think he's gay.

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gay huh lmao