Re: black and yellow snake in my yard.
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TylerxToxic
Is a ribbon snake poisoness??
No snake is Poisonous...they are venomous
Poison is ingested, venom is INJECted
Re: black and yellow snake in my yard.
Just in case anyone gets worried about "the scary venomous colubrids of north america" (lol), I've been bitten by plenty of garters and never had a reaction.. not even minimal swelling. I simply made sure to wash the bite area and apply some neosporin, because any animal bite can introduce infection.
Re: black and yellow snake in my yard.
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Patrick Long
No snake is Poisonous...they are venomous
Poison is ingested, venom is INJECted
What if you drank the venom? Is it then poison? :P
Re: black and yellow snake in my yard.
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Originally Posted by
Skiploder
What if you drank the venom? Is it then poison? :P
Hahahaha:8:
Re: black and yellow snake in my yard.
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Skiploder
Thamnophis are not opistoglyphic - they are aglyphic.
In other words, they are not "rear-fanged" in the traditional sense, but they are definitely venomous and some species do have nominally enlarged rear teeth - vagrans being a good example.
Remember, most colubrids are venomous but only about a third of those are actually rear-fanged.
t. s. sirtalis "florida blue" have some of the best looking "enlarged rear teeth" (i don't type it this way because the phrase rather annoys me, I have always been taught "rear fangs") I have seen on a garter.
Re: black and yellow snake in my yard.
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Originally Posted by
Patrick Long
No snake is Poisonous...they are venomous
I know of at least one Asian colubrid that has poisonous neck glands.
Re: black and yellow snake in my yard.
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Originally Posted by
aSnakeLovinBabe
t. s. sirtalis "florida blue" have some of the best looking "enlarged rear teeth" (i don't type it this way because the phrase rather annoys me, I have always been taught "rear fangs") I have seen on a garter.
Some species of garters have nominally enlarged rear fangs. That does not make them opistoglyphs like hydrodynastes, rhamphiophis, boiga, etc.
An opistoglyph not only has enlarged rear fangs, but delivers venom via a grooved channel in them. It is an evolutionary delivery step above having rear fangs and no channel.
The word glyph means carved or grooved channel............an aglyph lacks that channel.
So while a boiga, for example, has grooves in those enlarged rear teeth to make the venom delivery more effective, thamnophis does not.
Re: black and yellow snake in my yard.
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DutchHerp
I know of at least one Asian colubrid that has poisonous neck glands.
Ring neck snakes also utilize poison.
Re: black and yellow snake in my yard.
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DutchHerp
I know of at least one Asian colubrid that has poisonous neck glands.
would that be the red necked keelback? Rhabdophis Subminiatus?
And no, I didn't mean that garters are rear fanged like other rear fanged animals some of which are highly toxic, what I meant was, you can't deny that they have rather large rear teeth and there are toxins in there!!! That is all I was saying!
Re: black and yellow snake in my yard.
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Originally Posted by
aSnakeLovinBabe
would that be the red necked keelback? Rhabdophis Subminiatus?
And no, I didn't mean that garters are rear fanged like other rear fanged animals some of which are highly toxic, what I meant was, you can't deny that they have rather large rear teeth and there are toxins in there!!! That is all I was saying!
I thought it was R. Tigrinus but I am getting old and may be wrong.
As to thamnophis having enlarged rear fangs and being venomous - you are 100% correct.
