CT just snuck this thru

Just any herper/future herper:mad:

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Originally Posted by DutchHerp

Joshua,

Not all that much for now! This law is only Connecticut... however, more of these laws might be passed state per state... and more probably will get passed.

As far as I know there aren't may huge breeder in Connecticut though, so as far as that is concerned, we're not losing a BHB or a NERD.

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

Can someone sum this up? How will it affect the herp world?

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Won't affect anyone outside of Connecticut. That being said, all species banned in Connecticut are, well, banned.

(a) No person shall possess a potentially dangerous animal. For the purposes of this section, the following wildlife, or any hybrid thereof, shall be considered [as] potentially dangerous animals:
(1) The felidae, including, but not limited to, the lion, leopard, cheetah, jaguar, ocelot, jaguarundi cat, puma, lynx, [and] bobcat, [the] tiger, serval, caracal, jungle cat and Savannah cat;
(2) The canidae, including, but not limited to, the wolf, [and] coyote and fox; [and the]
(3) The ursidae, including, but not limited to, the black bear, grizzly bear and brown bear;
(4) The hominidae, including, but not limited to, the gorilla, chimpanzee and orangutan;
(5) The hylobatidae, including, but not limited to, the gibbon or "lesser ape";
(6) The cercopithecidae, including, but not limited to, the baboon and macaque;
(7) The macropodidae, including, but not limited to, the kangaroo and wallaby;
(8) The mustelidae, including, but not limited to, the wolverine;
(9) The hyaenidae, including, but not limited to, the hyaena;
(10) The elephantidae, including, but not limited to, the hippopotamidae, including the hippopotamus;
(11) The rhinocerotidae, including, but not limited to, the rhinoceros;
(12) The suidae, including, but not limited to, the warthog;
(13) The alligatoridae, including, but not limited to, the alligator and caiman;
(14) The crocodylidae, including, but not limited to, the crocodile;
(15) The gavialidae, including, but not limited to, the gavial;
(16) The elapidae, including, but not limited to, cobras, coral snakes and mambas;
(17) The viperidae, including, but not limited to, copperheads, rattlesnakes, cottonmouths and all other adders and vipers;
(18) The rear-fanged members of the colubridae in the genera lothornis, boiga, thelotornis, thabdophis, enhydris, dispholidus, clelia, rhabdophis, hydrodynastes, philodryas and malpolon;
(19) The Burmese/Indian, African Rock, amethystine and reticulated of the pythonidae;
(20) The green, yellow and dark spotted anacondas of the boidae;
(21) The helodermatidae, including, but not limited to, Gila monsters and beaded lizards; and
(22) The Nile monitor, water monitor, black-throat monitor, white-throat monitor, crocodile monitor and komodo dragon of the varanidae.

It also appears that no one is grandfathered in. You either relocate it or "dispose" of it. Looks like illegally keeping any species comes with a hefty fine (up to $2000) and they take possession of that animal. I assume to destroy it.

Yeah, I know, it's horrible that this law got passed!

However, as far as affecting the entire herp world, the effect is not nearly as great as say, HR669.

Wow how sad. Feel bad for the herpers in CT. :(

wow.

Suckage major.

So, does "Mustelidae, including but not limited to the wolverine" mean that thousands of ferret owners across CT will become fugitive felons as of October?

Guess that means my idle thought of a small, mossy terrarium dotted with azure frogs is history, too.

~Bruce, annoyed, but not surprised. This sort of thing happens whenever chimps attack.

Not trying to single ya out:D

But CT just got screwed in the blink of an eye. Even in HR669 doesn't pass, dont underestimate what these people are capable of doing. This is proof right here people, get on the ball, keep yourself informed, and act.

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Originally Posted by DutchHerp

Yeah, I know, it's horrible that this law got passed!

However, as far as affecting the entire herp world, the effect is not nearly as great as say, HR669.

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Yep and I know several people that keep ferrets.

Either relocate the animals before Oct 1st or risk financial ruin from the fines and have the state destroy the animals.

They basically killed CT with this law. They banned just about every animal.

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Originally Posted by 2kdime

Not trying to single ya out:D

But CT just got screwed in the blink of an eye. Even in HR669 doesn't pass, dont underestimate what these people are capable of doing. This is proof right here people, get on the ball, keep yourself informed, and act.

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Completely agreed. This is proof that it is very possible that HR669 WILL go through. While it's doubtful, it's possible.

I can't imagine all of those people in CT, and what they are going to have to go through. My heart truly goes out to them.

Wow that just came out of nowhere... :(

Now I'm wondering what other states could have hidden laws in the works we don't know about...

Bet you all never thought you would have to be so actively involved in politics for your country, state, city or county when all you really wanted to do was keep a small collection of exotics. It is scary that in the land of the free that so many of our rights are being taken away from us without even giving us the oportunity to speak on the topics at hand. They know that the majority of the time the topics would not pass on a bill of their own so they underwrite them on bigger bills that have much more social impact and let the other bill get past. Thus, they effectively pass the bill they were trying to by letting it "piggyback" on other bills. We all need to become active in our communities and fight back. As long as we are active we can find out about the laws and by publicly posting on this as well as other sites we can get the word out to everyone. Todd