HR 669: What Are the Chances?

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Originally Posted by grammie

Many times when I try to send an email through their sites, I get the message that they can't respond to me. Hopefully, the email goes through and there's no filter that keeps an email with my zip from being trashed.

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Unfortunately, the way the congressional web forms are setup, unless your zip code is in the district the Congressperson represents, they won't let your message get through. The best thing you can do is to contact your Representative in Congress and let them know that you would like their help opposing H.R. 669. If enough people contact them they will send an aide to speak directly to members on the Natural Resources committee and let them know that there is strong opposition to H.R. 669.

Keep an eye out this coming Friday for new about what you can specifically do to have as loud of a voice as possible in opposing H.R. 669.

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

That's one of the huge problems with the H.R. 669 as it's written. Without clear guidelines as to how to deal with issues like this one, the power is placed in the hands of the US Fish & Wildlife service to handle it as they see fit. Appointed officials with the power to have the FBI raid homes over parakeets and leopard geckos if they wanted ... the example is a little extreme of course, but it's still a scary thought.

-adam

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A scary thought it is! But what would they do with all the creatures, euthanize them? They could not deport them back to the native countries due to an overflow in populations of the different animals. Think of every ball python being shipped back to Ghana, it would be (i'm guessing) close to 100K animals? Big breeders keeps hundreds of snakes and then there are the consumers owning anywhere from 1-100+. All the just born hatchlings, there is a near countless amount of animals that would flood borders to be released and quickly die due to being in captivity. Granted snakes could more than likely still survive but I don't think a guinea pig or hamster would last long in the wild without a food bowl full of their treats.

And if they were to euthanize them, where would they put all the bodies? Would they bury them or burn them? If they did either I'm sure there would be more environmental activists attacking them for that.

I did send one to my rep. I also posted this on my local Craigslist pet section.

What are the chances the U.S government would out law the making, sale, or interstate transport of a widely used and enjoyed previously legal commodity. Wouldn't be the first time...


Ever hear of prohibition "from 1919 to 1933, during which the sale, manufacture, and transportation of alcohol for consumption were banned nationally as mandated in the Eighteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution."

And why did it pass? "Explanation was sought by medical men. One suggestion had come from one of the foremost physicians of the late 18th century, Dr. Benjamin Rush. In 1784, he argued that the excessive use of alcohol was injurious to physical and psychological health"

See any words in there you recognize

lol, speakeasies selling black bear hamsters and bootlegging ball pythons. The new NASCAR is born!

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Originally Posted by Little B-Py

lol, speakeasies selling black bear hamsters and bootlegging ball pythons. The new NASCAR is born!

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Like Adam said just like prohibition HR669 doesn't say how it will be enforced, whats included or excluded or really have a sound reason as to why. It's one of those Laws that "sounded good"

A quote I love from my History Professor..."you can't pass laws to make people good"

People will always break laws, whether is be a speed limit, making illegal booze in prohibition, or (potentially) underground snake breeding and selling rings.

"Welcome to the Ball Python Black Market, we have everything you need from normals to lucies"

Well, ain't this grand. Look at the DEADLY "burmese python." -Rolls her eyes.-

http://www.necis.net/files/brochure-...h.r.-669-2.pdf

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Originally Posted by Little B-Py

A quote I love from my History Professor..."you can't pass laws to make people good"

People will always break laws, whether is be a speed limit, making illegal booze in prohibition, or (potentially) underground snake breeding and selling rings.

"Welcome to the Ball Python Black Market, we have everything you need from normals to lucies"

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Or even more serious.. what if you hear "All owners of these listed animals must report to a USWF station with their animals to have them humanly put down with in 12 months or risk Jail time and a fine."

And that goes back to my previous statement, what would they do with them? and who is to know who is housing what?

I LOVE the pic of the "burmese" python in the brochure!