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  • 04-05-2009, 03:10 PM
    Shadera
    Re: I Approve of Most of H.R. 669
    OP, you're welcome to let them come take your reptiles, but most of us are going to fight this because we know what the real agenda is. As if there aren't WAY bigger problems our lawmakers could be focusing on right now.

    They'll get my pets like they'll get my guns. When they pry them from my cold, dead hands.
  • 04-05-2009, 03:13 PM
    Richard
    Re: I Approve of Most of H.R. 669
    I have one last rebuttal then i have start working on my pape. For every nonnative species that has been imported and and unresponsibly released in the wild, most in which have effected the native species to a great degree almost to and in some cases to extinction. All these species that have been lost or are currently losing, you all approve of this?

    O yea and this lol

    This bill is in the first step in the legislative process. Introduced bills and resolutions first go to committees that deliberate, investigate, and revise them before they go to general debate. The majority of bills and resolutions never make it out of committee. [Last Updated: Mar 7, 2009 11:06AM]

    no need to worry
  • 04-05-2009, 03:32 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: I Approve of Most of H.R. 669
    Dck,

    I completely understand and sympathize with your consideration of the native fauna of the United States ... as a nature lover, conservationist, and land owner, I have the same concerns and I'm certainly willing to do whatever is necessary to effectively protect the native wildlife and habitats of the United States. Unfortunately, HR 669 does nothing other than forward the agenda of animal rights groups who's charter is to end all pet owner ship by the year 2050 ... that's right ... cats, dogs, horses, goldfish ... all of them. HR 669 is their first step towards that goal hidden in bureaucratic gibberish and wrapped in a blanket of lies about how it will protect the environment.

    Closing our eyes and hoping that it will go away because it's "only in sub committee" will be our unfortunate legacy when HR 669 makes it to the floor of the house for an up or down vote.

    Educate yourself ... read PIJACs testimony from last years version of 669 and see the real truth ... then take action ... contact your representatives in congress and let them know how much your pet hamsters, parakeets, tropical fish, reptiles, and amphibians mean to you and how you and people you know will be affected if this legislation passes. Then keep an eye out for information coming from PIJAC in the days ahead about what you can do to have a real influence on the hearing on April 23rd.

    Now is the time to WAKE UP and GET INVOLVED!

    PIJAC Testimony on HR 6631 (the previous version of HR 669) - http://www.pijac.org/files/public/HR..._Testimony.pdf

    -adam
  • 04-05-2009, 04:00 PM
    nixer
    Re: I Approve of Most of H.R. 669
    this is the dumbest post i have seen on here!
    or this is the biggest troll to the forum.
    this will ban everything and removes states rights! also includes removing the freedom to those who keep any animal in this country you will not be able to move out of state with your animals nor can you sell them if you need to do so?
    so that would leave 1 option to put them down.
    also note if you look at the cosponsors they are all members of the sname committee that has been dupped into supporting this rubbish. and also note that guam is not a state!
    this is beyond committee and will be in the house the 23rd! if this passes i hope cats and dogs are on the ban list then lets see you cry!
  • 04-05-2009, 04:33 PM
    Richard
    Re: I Approve of Most of H.R. 669
    o just wait for a few hours and you will see the result of all this, i will be posting it in a few hours :gj:

    THANK YOU ALL WHO TOOK THE TIME TO REPLY TO THIS
    Means a lot really

    like i said i will show you why in few hours mabey around 9pm
  • 04-05-2009, 04:42 PM
    blackcrystal22
    Re: I Approve of Most of H.R. 669
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    o just wait for a few hours and you will see the result of all this, i will be posting it in a few hours :gj:

    THANK YOU ALL WHO TOOK THE TIME TO REPLY TO THIS
    Means a lot really

    like i said i will show you why in few hours mabey around 9pm

    I think Wil smelled tuna in the wrong thread.

    :colbert:
  • 04-05-2009, 05:48 PM
    wolfy-hound
    Re: I Approve of Most of H.R. 669
    It'll probably be a "I wanted to bring this to everyone's attention, so I pretended to be for the bill".
    Or it's just a troll who likes seeing honest folks worked up over a real threat to our hobby, our pets, and in some cases our livelihood and economy.
  • 04-05-2009, 06:02 PM
    PythonJiuJitsu
    Re: I Approve of Most of H.R. 669
    Bottom line: More government is not the solution. Never has been, never will be. I am the ultimate authority inside my home and about what I keep within its walls. Not the government. The government answers to me, and us the taxpayers and voters. NOT the other way around. This bill is simply another way by which people in power think they can control others and I bet you a shiny new quarter theres some money somewhere in this for a select few people.

    I will do what I can to fight this bill as I ahve done with many others.
  • 04-05-2009, 06:09 PM
    Bruce Whitehead
    Re: I Approve of Most of H.R. 669
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    THANK YOU ALL WHO TOOK THE TIME TO REPLY TO THIS

    like i said i will show you why in few hours mabey around 9pm

    If this was research of ANY sort then you engaged in unethical practices by not informing your *participants* of their involvement.

    Bruce
  • 04-05-2009, 06:13 PM
    womensitdown
    Re: I Approve of Most of H.R. 669
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    After reading the details of this bill, In my opion this is a most of a good thing. This bill wont ban reptiles has a whole, but limt the Importation of nonnative wildlife. Sec 6>a>6 states that any nonative wildlife that is already owned before H.R. 669 may pass is ok to have. There is a part of the bill that makes me uncomfortable and angry and thats Sec 6>a>4 which will ban the breeding of nonnative wildlife.

    I also believe this bill will help rid the pet trade of those out there taking advantage of nonnative wildlife and the collectors who are just trying to make a $$$$.

    I love my reptiles and my trade as much as anyone eles here, but i would be more then happy to give it all up to help see them thrive in the wild. I think H.R. 669 will help do so.:snake:

    With all this being said, I would like to discuss and hear your opions. Iam not tring to start any DRAMA here so please keep the slaming to a limt:)

    Just because your willing to "give it all up" doesn't mean people who make their entire living breeding snakes and feeders are. Judging by the grammar and spelling in this post you may want to reread the bill. ( I had too three or four times) I'm by no means a spelling and punctuation pro, but my girlfriend is an english major and she wasn't happy with your proof reading or your position.
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