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Re: I need help :(
Thanks, ill be checking the pet store i go to. if they dont have it ill place the order tomarrow after noon.
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Re: I need help :(
I too was having this problem, however my guy never soaked, and is older...i fed him a rat that was probably way to over-sized, he regurgated it, i waited 2 weeks and fed him something smaller, he took it like there was tomorrow. However he ended up throwing it up again...Took him to the vet, everything was fine, not parasites, droppings were normal, everything was fine, he was just throwing it up. So for about the last month and a half i've been terrified about losing my guy. I actually just ended up feeding him 2 days ago, the first meal he's had in almost 2 months, and he took it, did not throw it up, and is doing great! So it may be something simiilar, however i never ended up knowing what was wrong with my guy, other than he just wouldn't keep his prey down.
I guess to say the least, i know the feeling and was in a similar boat and how horrible it feels, and i wish you nothing but the best and hope everything turns out o.k.!! :gj:
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Re: I need help :(
Remember though when a snake regurges it's not really like you or I puking up last night's meal. Their stomach acids are so incredibly strong, strong enough to break down bone, hair, teeth even. When that prey comes up, so does a bunch of that very strong acid and when that comes up, it burns. We've seen snakes here that not only had damage internally from a regurged acid burn but externally from exposure to the stuff on their substrate. It's a pretty major event for them.
I think the stuff Jim suggested is a great idea as well as letting the snake rest without handling or feeding attempts for a few weeks to recover from the regurge, then feeding very small feeds for awhile before you slowly work up to normal feeding routines again. I haven't had a lot of regurges to deal with here but the ones I've had took months, not weeks, to get back to normal and that was fine with me. I'd rather be feeding way smaller than normal meals for awhile then get into a cycle of feed, regurge, feed, regurge.
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Re: I need help :(
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Originally Posted by JeffJ
my baby boa is going on week 2 of regurges.
Ive had a fecal done and there is no parasites or anything els that the vet can see that would explain this behavior. She is a captive bread, i thought the was WC but i was incorrect.
Her warm side is 92*f, cool is 82*f and the ambient temp is 80*f. Humidity is 50%
these are all temperatures taken with accu-temp Digital gauges and a Thermal Gun.
Ive inspected her for mites she seems ok, i must have done this at leats 10 times, only because she is soaking her self.
the background on this issue is this:
I picked her up from the pet store, where she was fed after she arrived from shipping. she took fine. and pooped fine. (Arrival to pickup = 2 days)
1st feeding went fine or so i though, she ate it. like a champ. went into her warm hide and stayed there. the following day i came home to observe her soaking in her water dish. i didn't bother her and a few hours later was surprised with a regurge. So i decided to take a fecal in for testing and left her be.
second feeding time comes around. (5 days later) and she takes this fuzzie no contest. she was cruzing and appeared very hungry and took it very quickly. Same thing after. she retreated to her warm hide for the rest of the evening. then when i came home from work she was AGAIN soaking in her water dish which was followed promptly this time with a regurge.
so here i stand. 2 regurges, she is still drinking, and im getting worried. some how the soaking is related but im not sure what the issue is. she has pooped fine so she is not impacted. no parasites or bacterial infections that the vet can tell. and im 99% sure being captive bread she does not have IBD although she is being quarantined to be sure. she has not exhibited any signs of it.
she is in a rack. its closed off on 3 sides, and is in my bed room so low traffic. so im at a loss if this is stress related.
thanks for looking, please help :(
Give her a lot more time before attempting to feed after a regurge. As has already been noted on this thread, two weeks is the minimum amount of time I would attempt another feeding.
Being captive bred would not make any difference in whether or not she may be at risk for IBD. The occurance rates in wild snakes is unknown.
Nutribac can also be added to her water - it's basically a probiotic for snakes. It will assist in getting her beneficial gut flora (or good bacteria) up to effective levels.
Whether this will cure her regurges or not - I don't know.
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Re: I need help :(
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Originally Posted by Skiploder
Give her a lot more time before attempting to feed after a regurge. As has already been noted on this thread, two weeks is the minimum amount of time I would attempt another feeding.
Being captive bred would not make any difference in whether or not she may be at risk for IBD. The occurance rates in wild snakes is unknown.
Nutribac can also be added to her water - it's basically a probiotic for snakes. It will assist in getting her beneficial gut flora (or good bacteria) up to effective levels.
Whether this will cure her regurges or not - I don't know.
i understand she is still at risk for IBD thats why she is quarantined. But since she came from a breeder the chances of her having it are slim compared to if she had an unknown background.
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Re: I need help :(
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Originally Posted by Mighty Monty
I too was having this problem, however my guy never soaked, and is older...i fed him a rat that was probably way to over-sized, he regurgated it, i waited 2 weeks and fed him something smaller, he took it like there was tomorrow. However he ended up throwing it up again...Took him to the vet, everything was fine, not parasites, droppings were normal, everything was fine, he was just throwing it up. So for about the last month and a half i've been terrified about losing my guy. I actually just ended up feeding him 2 days ago, the first meal he's had in almost 2 months, and he took it, did not throw it up, and is doing great! So it may be something simiilar, however i never ended up knowing what was wrong with my guy, other than he just wouldn't keep his prey down.
I guess to say the least, i know the feeling and was in a similar boat and how horrible it feels, and i wish you nothing but the best and hope everything turns out o.k.!! :gj:
you and I are in the same situation here. im at a loss for the cause of the regurges besides the fact that she may not have enough digestive enzymes and bacteria.
the difference is she cannot afford to go more then 2 weeks maximum with out eating she is about as skinny as she can take getting before she look and i assume will get sickly. Im going to be putting that additive ion her water and wait two weeks and feed her a small pinky dusted in the additive as well. in hopes i can solve this issue before its too late.
i know regurges are no joke :( im not having a fun time.
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Re: I need help :(
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Originally Posted by JeffJ
i understand she is still at risk for IBD thats why she is quarantined. But since she came from a breeder the chances of her having it are slim compared to if she had an unknown background.
If you really think IBD is an option, have her tested for it.
While a 90 day quarantine is a great idea, it isn't going to clear you of IBD.
Per your other thread, four days ago you thought she might be wild caught - correct? Did you get confirmation either way on this? Do you know who the breeder is?
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Re: I need help :(
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Originally Posted by Skiploder
If you really think IBD is an option, have her tested for it.
While a 90 day quarantine is a great idea, it isn't going to clear you of IBD.
Per your other thread , four days ago you thought she might be wild caught - correct? Did you get confirmation either way on this? Do you know who the breeder is?
she is not wild caught, i got her at my friends cost thats why i thought she was because she was rather cheap.
she is a CB from a breeder in Windsor Ontario. I actually stopped in to talk to my friend at the store last night for ideas as well. he is also a boa breeder. he is waiting on a litter. and he also suggested waiting two weeks and trying a pinky. he didn't suggest a supplement but he did mention it is an option if i need it. He also said that a fuzzy shouldnt be too large as all because he feeds all his new bourn boas them and has never started a boa on a pinky mouse. He assured me that the chances of IBD were slim to none as he has been getting boas off this breeder for over 5 years now, and knows the guy well and says he exercises the best caution with new snakes. He also has a older 2.25 foot male boa in with a reversed pattern. he offered to take her back in exchange for the male who is on a good feeding schedule that he him self has had going for 2 weeks now. but i dont want to trade i want to keep my lil Dixie :( but id take the male too if i can first get Dixie on a good feeding schedule.
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Re: I need help :(
Yeah, my guy is over 2 years old, so he can go awhile, i think over-all it was just over 2 months before he ate again. You really can't do that with those babies!
Wish you nothing but luck in getting your guy to eat again!
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Re: I need help :(
Thanks for the support :)
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