BallpythonZone.com Split - Wild caught BP

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

Well, I'm not trying to make you feel like crap Eddie, it just really rang a chord with me.

What I was trying to get at is that we aren't dealing with Rare Pythons here that bought 500 gravid WC females. He's a kid that got one snake from what I consider a less than upstanding seller (that ships snakes in envelopes) he shouldn't be told to get rid of a pet because of where it came from.

If he understood and knew the issues with WC's before he got the snake, that's one thing, but I don't believe he did, so I am forgiving of that. Because many of the snakes we as a hobby love likely were captive hatched, imported and sold in a major pet store. I know I almost bought a CH baby from Petco, and there are thousands of people that have that really love their pet.

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Thanks, and I understand where you are coming from. I was out of place suggesting that he should ditch his animal. I just do not agree with people selling wild caught animals. Anyone that buys from these sellers, are supporting them. The more buyers of wild caught animals, the more sellers there will be. It’s a catch twenty-two.

Sorry if I offended anyone.

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Originally Posted by Wh00h0069

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. My opinion is that wild caught should stay in the wild. We have enough ball pythons in the United States as it is. Tons of breeders are pretty much giving away their cb normal animals because there are a half-a-million ball pythons being imported into the United States every year. I will not support this or anyone else who does.

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I'm not talking about your opinion on WCs, I don't care what you think about WCs it's that you're telling someone to ditch their animal that grinds my gears. :mad:

if the animal is in a loving and caring home it should stay there. its already been imported. its not like you can release it back to the wild.

WC need homes too, since sending them back to the wild is not an option 99% of the time.

Wh00h0069, if WC stayed in the wild then we wouldnt have CB/CH, breeders would have nothing. all of them from some point in time have WC blood in them wether its recent or not.

im really confused as to how people are against w.c.....think about it if you guys had your way a few years ago...no pastels...no spiders....no mojave...no nada. Now i know the argument "its wrong blah blah we have enough here blah blah...but honestly...think about it for one second...if i have some cake, and am eating it and your gonna sit there and try to grab a piece and then i said whoa whoa whoa, why do you want this cake. you cant have it, i just outlawed cake taking. now im the only one who gets to enjoy this cake. no, not fair. the new generation should have their shot at bringing in the next new morphs. like the toffee. if wild caughts were outlawed wed have no toffe ball, and im willing to bet if i had a freshly picked toffee ball and was willing to give it to any one of you who are soooo against w.c. id bet youd take it.

you guys should check out The Urban Python in Ontario . . . they have some of the craziest wild caught ball pythons i have seen and are currently tryin to prove them out . . . here is the link check these snakes out and then tell me you think its bad to be working with wild caughts http://www.theurbanpython.com/ball_p...ollection.html

http://www.theurbanpython.com/sandblast.html
http://www.theurbanpython.com/lemonfrost.html
every snake came from the wild at some point and some of the best and craziest morphs came from the wild caughts . . . even normals with amazing patterns, if you dont want a WC then dont buy one

most morphs come from wild caught animals

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Originally Posted by Python Guru

you guys should check out The Urban Python in Ontario . . . they have some of the craziest wild caught ball pythons i have seen and are currently tryin to prove them out . . . here is the link check these snakes out and then tell me you think its bad to be working with wild caughts http://www.theurbanpython.com/ball_p...ollection.html

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i want some lava.

It seems pointless to me to import a half-a-million ball pythons into the United States each year for possibly one or two new morphs each season, if that. Thoughts?

I have 2 females in my collection that I suspect were WC. One I got on a trade, the other I got at a local store because I couldn't bear to leave her there with those horrid burn scars all over her. I love them both, even if I never breed them. They can't be released back to Africa, but what I can do for them is give them the best care I'm able so that they live out their lives as comfortably as they can.

I'm okay with CH or WC, as long as it's done responsibly.

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Originally Posted by Wh00h0069

It seems pointless to me to import a half-a-million ball pythons into the United States each year for possibly one or two new morphs each season, if that. Thoughts?

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the demand for ball pythons is very high, and all those snakes either get bred or purchased, if the demand is high then i don tthink its pointless, maybe you should sell ur snakes if it bothers you becuase at one point their parents or them were from the wild