Enclosure size

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Originally Posted by scotty99

Both my balls have climbing branches in their vivs, and use them often.Dimissing a whole species of snake "as balls are not made for climbing" is a bit misleading, each animal is different.

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How old are your BPs? Young ones tend to climb a lot more than older ones.

I only have one at the moment and he is a baby (83 days). My plan is to buy a rack system and pick up the second one sometime this summer. Breeding to start in several years I guess.

Animal Plastics has a good selection of racks and not too pricey. I believe they have an adult rack with only three drawers. Perfect for what you are planning on doing.

For the babies, you can house them together till after their first shed, then, what I do is put them all in separate small tubs in rack by them selves. Helps to already have them separated for feeding.

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Originally Posted by Wh00h0069

I keep my adult ball python females in approximately 41 qt tubs, which are approximately 33" by 15" (floor area.)

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Its what I use. Works great. :)

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Originally Posted by jsmorphs2

I have my adult BPs in the 33" X 17" tub rack system. I've found, however, the enclosure size is great for the snakes but....after adding an appropriate size water bowl (4"-6" cir.) and a humid hide or regular hide, it seems to be cramped.

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I agree, that is another reason that I do not use hides. Mine hide under the newsprint if they would like to hide.

Thanks. I will check them all out.

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Originally Posted by scotty99

Both my balls have climbing branches in their vivs, and use them often.Dimissing a whole species of snake "as balls are not made for climbing" is a bit misleading, each animal is different.

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Like Slim asked, how old are your animals? Once balls start putting on the weight they can become quite clumsy when trying to climb. The snake could quite possibly fall of that branch and hurt themselves.

Objects for them to climb on are unnecessary and quite possibly dangerous if high enough up.

Very young. Around 85 days old.

Ok. Just to make sure I have this straight. Would it work to get a RB or AP rack for adults and, when I have juveniles, to put them into smaller, individual shoe-box tubs that are placed inside of one or more of the larger tubs? If that works, I would have the flexibility I need.

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Originally Posted by TMoore

Like Slim asked, how old are your animals? Once balls start putting on the weight they can become quite clumsy when trying to climb. The snake could quite possibly fall of that branch and hurt themselves.

Objects for them to climb on are unnecessary and quite possibly dangerous if high enough up.

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I have a thick arched piece of Java which is about 4-5 inches higher than the top of the hides, so they can't get too high, yep noted that they are not the best climbers (hence keeping it low), but they seem to like getting on there when they feel like it.It adds a bit of interest and fills the viv up, and gives a bit of security for them to hide under outside their hides.