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Frozen Thawed question

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  • 02-19-2009, 02:10 PM
    JeffJ
    Re: Frozen Thawed question
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    Originally Posted by RWD View Post
    I think the best way to get a snake to eat F/T is to pre feed. What I mean by that it to feed a small live mouse or rat, as soon as he has swallowed the live one introduce the F/T feeder. Both should be about half the size of a normal feeding. This has worked for me many of times on pythons and boas. Hope this helps.

    if he pre feeds he will never break them of there refusal habit to F/T
  • 02-19-2009, 02:10 PM
    dsmalex97
    Re: Frozen Thawed question
    oh another thing!!!

    when I feed him in his tub, should I just let him come out of his hide, or should I remove it when I introduce the food?
  • 02-19-2009, 02:12 PM
    JeffJ
    Re: Frozen Thawed question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dsmalex97 View Post
    oh another thing!!!

    when I feed him in his tub, should I just let him come out of his hide, or should I remove it when I introduce the food?

    just let him come out on his own terms. i just fed last night, i let him crawl into the hide from my hands drop in my live feeder and this time it took literally 20 seconds and that mouse was done. he stuck his head out and as soo as it wandered near bam! struck so hard the hide flipped and he looked like a ball of yarn constricting on it lol
  • 02-19-2009, 02:18 PM
    dsmalex97
    Re: Frozen Thawed question
    haha i love feeding live! If it was live it takes about 5 seconds for him to get it lol. I think if I offer it to him later on tonight without removing him from his tub, and just offering it without touching him, it will work. Or should I wait longer?
  • 02-19-2009, 02:22 PM
    JeffJ
    Re: Frozen Thawed question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dsmalex97 View Post
    haha i love feeding live! If it was live it takes about 5 seconds for him to get it lol. I think if I offer it to him later on tonight without removing him from his tub, and just offering it without touching him, it will work. Or should I wait longer?

    you can try if he is in his hide to the zombie dance in front of the hide entrance
  • 02-19-2009, 02:25 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: Frozen Thawed question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dsmalex97 View Post
    well its actually pretty common to do that so the snake doesn't become agressive every time you open the tank. My snakes have never lead me to believe they would ever act like this, I just did it for precaution because a lot of people reccomended it. But when do you think I should try to feed him again?

    This is a myth. No one recommends this. Can you do it? Yes. Does it actually make them less aggressive? Not in any way. I have fed in a separate container and in their normal tub and I have never noticed a difference in temperament.

    feed him again in 5 days. Have you tried pre-scenting or rubbing the F/T with soiled rat or mouse bedding?
  • 02-19-2009, 02:26 PM
    Oroborous
    Re: Frozen Thawed question
    All my snakes are fed in seperate containers.
    But when I first got my 08 male pastel I offered him his first meal in his cage since he was still settling in and was nervous. I gave him a live rat fuzzy which he gladly took first try. Now I feed him p/k in a seperate container with no problems.
    Keep trying f/t. What I do is thaw the rodent in the fridge over night, then put it in a cup of hot water for 10-15 min. Make sure it is warm to the touch and dry. The more pungent it smells and the warmer it is, the more likely your snake will take it. If your going to feed in his cage, dangle it infront of his hide and make it do a convincing dance. Hopefully he'll strike before he realizes it's a dead rodent already. Good luck!
  • 02-19-2009, 02:30 PM
    dsmalex97
    Re: Frozen Thawed question
    ummm then how come about 10 people on here told me to do if no one does it lol? But i do agree with that it really doesn't do anything, being that I have normally fed my snake in the tub and have had 0 problems. I think some snakes are just born pissed off haha. But i did pre-scent as well. What I do is take the bag the frozen mice are in and open it and put part of the bag in the tub. He deffinately smelled it when I did that, I think taking him out of the tub just threw him off. Even though I did it 2 weeks ago like I said and took it without hesitating. SO really? Wait 5 days?
  • 02-19-2009, 02:31 PM
    Muze
    Re: Frozen Thawed question
    I would leave him alone for a few days (even until next feeding day). Then you should try pre-scenting the room if you haven't already done so. Blow drying the thawed rodent the first few F/T meals is a great way to get them interested. Mine are conditioned already to just take the thawed rodent that I place in their tubs. But I started with zombie dances, blow drying, & pre-scenting. All 18 of mine now accept F/T with no issues.

    Feeding in a seperate container or not depends on the keeper's preference. I feed in their enclosures and have never had any of my snakes strike at me during non-feeding days. However, I've heard of many who feed in seperate containers & are succesful with that method. It also depends on the snake. Some are stressed by being moved around, some are not.

    Last thing: Some of my BPs refuse food while in shed & some don't. I'd say it's 50/50 with mine.
  • 02-19-2009, 02:32 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: Frozen Thawed question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dsmalex97 View Post
    ummm then how come about 10 people on here told me to do if no one does it lol? But i do agree with that it really doesn't do anything, being that I have normally fed my snake in the tub and have had 0 problems. I think some snakes are just born pissed off haha. But i did pre-scent as well. What I do is take the bag the frozen mice are in and open it and put part of the bag in the tub. He deffinately smelled it when I did that, I think taking him out of the tub just threw him off. Even though I did it 2 weeks ago like I said and took it without hesitating. SO really? Wait 5 days?

    People do it just because they have heard that it helps with "aggressiveness". But it really doesn't. At all.

    Yes, wait 5 days and try again. How long did you leave the mouse in last time?
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