Breeder Loaning?

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Originally Posted by Nagini88

I was thinking about doing one but wasnt sure how to go about it, this post has been very helpful. I know it needs to be changed per breeding, but does anyone have an example of a breeding loan contract to look at?

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Heather has offered them up in the past, maybe she will see this.

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Originally Posted by Nagini88

I was thinking about doing one but wasnt sure how to go about it, this post has been very helpful. I know it needs to be changed per breeding, but does anyone have an example of a breeding loan contract to look at?

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I believe I have posted it before, but if you want a copy, please e-mail me and I will send it to you.

Should be a 'Bad experience but would try it again' option...

Me, I loaned out a female, was told she laid eggs, my female was returned at the next show, never heard from him again...

Currently I have a couple females of two buddies breeding.

I found out where the contract was posted...

Search functions ROCK!

Anyway, here is the post.

Take from it what you will..

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...5&postcount=12

I would do one, the only thing I would add to Robin's list is that for me I would want each of us to spring for a "clean bill of health" from the vet prior to copulation.

Once the snake came out of QT, whoever had it, would take both in, get them checked, and we would absorb the cost of our own bills.

But as noted it would really depend on the person. There are a few people I would trust, but not many.

As noted, I could send a male to a person, what is to stop them from breeding that male to myriad females, etc., or to misrepresent clutch size etc. Again... trust the person you send your animals too.

But I am neurotic (I don't let people in my snake room even - moreso people with snaks that I do not know their husbandry first hand).

Bruce

Here's what I posted about a year ago on another breeding loan thread. It's not the verbage of the contract, but shows what details are included in our contract (the two I did last year were 2 pages long).

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Mine outlined the date that the animal was turned over to the person who would be doing the breeding, what was turned over and weight. That to best of both people's knowledge, both animals were free of internal and external parasites, and clearly stated the length of Quarantine.

Who was responsible to the care of the animal (enclosure, bedding, hydration, medical care, etc) and that if any health issued arised, I would be contacted immediately. The breeder also reserved the right to terminate breeding attempts if they felt that either animal was at a health risk.

There was also acknowledgement that some things happen that are out of our control, and a value was placed on the loaned animal in the event of its death and the period of time that restitution would be paid.

It outlined feeding schedule (frequency and what would be offered).

It listed the animal that it would be bred to and how the offspring would be divided (who chose first, and who got the extra odd animal if it wasn't an even number).

It stipulated how many times the babies would feed before the babies were split and the frequency of feeding the babies.

It also named the independent, non-affliated person who would sex the offspring, and stated that the offspring I chose as well as the loaned animaal would be packaged for overnight delivery and full and complete records would be kept and turned over to me at the time of the return of the animal.

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I've never done it with bps, but have with corns, but the experience is the same. I've done it once a couple of years ago and it was 100% perfect, in that case I sent out a male.

I'm doing it again this year, where I'm receiving a male and breeding it to one of my females. I've done it as others have outlined: contract, split the babies with person doing breeding getting first pick and the odd one out in the event of an odd number, etc.

I would definitely do it again, but only with someone I trusted 10235987%.

i plan on doing a breeding loan with a friend,
i wanted,

my snake back of coarse, ONE hatchling (my choice)
and some cash.


thats it.

OR, 60% of the clutch, if i incubated, or 40% if she incubated.

I have no problem doing breeder loans. Provided its local. I wont ship anything off for just breeding. I dont even have to know the person very well i just need to know where they work and live so i can find them if they try to screw me.
And it depends on what the hatchlings are. If im interested in them i might want a couple but im not greedy. I try to make things as simple as possible.
If its a male someone wants to borrow from me ill let them take it home.
If its a female it stays with me and they can bring their male over.

i did it, i had a big normal female and a baby pastel in august so a guy i met from buying cresties had an adult male pastel, he lent it to me without hesitiation. Now i have an adult pastel female adlt spider 2 genetic striped diesel balls and a lesser. He now will have access to what ever he would like to use just for being cool with me except the deisels, lol.

KARMA