Wow, thanks everyone!!!
So I found fire x spider on NERD's site and the adults are a brownish gray with deep chocolate/black spider patterns. I'm assuming that fire x pins would look the same. This could be neat, but if I'm going to spend $600 for a breeder male I'd almost rather get a nice lesser and make kingpins. I just watched some of Ralph Davis' kingpin videos on youtube and they really do age very nicely!
I like butters, too, but I think they are a bit out of my price range. Lessers and fires are pushing it, even. I'll have to hunt around for a good deal and weigh my options that way. A cinnapin would be a more affordable morph to take a stab at, but they aren't jumping out at me. I'll have to try to hunt down photos of adults. I'm also still keeping my eye out for a smoking male pastel just in case.
Thanks for your help everyone! The search continues :)
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