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Hard Lumps?

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  • 01-02-2009, 01:05 AM
    Lateralus_Love
    Re: Hard Lumps?
    Thanks guys, I appreciate the reassurance :)
  • 01-02-2009, 01:13 AM
    Royal Morphz
    Re: Hard Lumps?
    How warm is the hot side of the bloods enclosure if its to low and the humidity is to low then the meals aren't being digested properly and as many have said i believe they are urates but i think if the snake dosn't pass them soon i would consult a vet as urates have been know to get sharp edges while rubbing on the snakes bowels and can cause damage when giving the bathes make sure they are warm and massage her lightly that sometimes help for stuck urates to pass good luck and i hope all ends well
  • 01-02-2009, 01:21 AM
    m00kfu
    Re: Hard Lumps?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Royal Morphz View Post
    How warm is the hot side of the bloods enclosure if its to low and the humidity is to low then the meals aren't being digested properly and as many have said i believe they are urates but i think if the snake dosn't pass them soon i would consult a vet as urates have been know to get sharp edges while rubbing on the snakes bowels and can cause damage when giving the bathes make sure they are warm and massage her lightly that sometimes help for stuck urates to pass good luck and i hope all ends well

    Actually, you don't want the hot side too hot. Nothing higher than 85 degrees for your hot spot, as blood's have a slower digestive process than most snakes and if your hot spot is too warm the rat may start to decompose in their stomach. Not a good thing.

    More than likely it's just urates, these animals tend to really let things build up before they let it go. I rarely see our blacks pass urates or defecate between sheds.
  • 01-02-2009, 01:41 AM
    Royal Morphz
    Re: Hard Lumps?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by m00kfu View Post
    Actually, you don't want the hot side too hot. Nothing higher than 85 degrees for your hot spot, as blood's have a slower digestive process than most snakes and if your hot spot is too warm the rat may start to decompose in their stomach. Not a good thing.

    More than likely it's just urates, these animals tend to really let things build up before they let it go. I rarely see our blacks pass urates or defecate between sheds.

    Thanks I should have included the Temps i was referring to. I did dabble in Bloods before I turned to Ball's

    http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...12-29-07-1.jpg
    My first Albino produced from a het to het Breeding
  • 01-02-2009, 01:47 AM
    m00kfu
    Re: Hard Lumps?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Royal Morphz View Post
    Thanks I should have included the Temps i was referring to. I did dabble in Bloods before I turned to Ball's

    http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...12-29-07-1.jpg
    My first Albino produced from a het to het Breeding

    It's all good, man. Just wanted to make sure the numbers were mentioned. :gj:

    That's a good looking albino, too!
  • 01-02-2009, 01:53 AM
    Royal Morphz
    Re: Hard Lumps?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by m00kfu View Post
    It's all good, man. Just wanted to make sure the numbers were mentioned. :gj:

    That's a good looking albino, too!

    Yeah Chris he was I had to pass him along to a friend as i got out of Boas and Bloods. But i will get back into them again soon maybe when we get a bigger house lol. How are things with you guys?
  • 01-02-2009, 10:29 AM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: Hard Lumps?
    I'd say a hot spot can go up to 88, but bloods really prefer to be in the mid 80's.

    If you are concerned about the urates becoming a block, you can give her the option soak in a tub of water in the enclosure.

    If I can find the post, I will show you what happens when urates really do block up a snake. It's not pretty, but it does end well.

    Here we go...
    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ighlight=urate
  • 01-02-2009, 12:43 PM
    redpython
    Re: Hard Lumps?
    adults can handle higher temps, up to 90 if it is a small spot and not the entire cage....babies in smaller locations usually don't deal with it so well.

    A lot of people over feed their bloods. they are not created like most other snakes. They push and push food down them, thinking that a big snake that looks like a sausage is what they are suppose to have.

    And when you combine this with the fact that bloods do not poop that often and store it up...they freak out and want to do all kinds of weird and crazy things to their snakes.

    a lot of vets do not understand how blood pythons work. so what they tell you about their habits may not actually apply.

    good luck w/ your snake.
  • 01-02-2009, 04:02 PM
    Dvas_Romeo
    Re: Hard Lumps?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by littleindiangirl View Post
    I'd say a hot spot can go up to 88, but bloods really prefer to be in the mid 80's.

    If you are concerned about the urates becoming a block, you can give her the option soak in a tub of water in the enclosure.

    If I can find the post, I will show you what happens when urates really do block up a snake. It's not pretty, but it does end well.

    Here we go...
    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ighlight=urate

    Haha...before I clicked on the link I wondered if it was the post on Jelly! :)

    Yes, all does end well. Since then, Jelly's lump near the last 1/4 of his body is still there. But he's otherwise fine, has pooped a few times since my last post on this topic, looks great, and of course has an amazing appetite! :D
  • 01-02-2009, 06:15 PM
    BallPythons9
    Re: Hard Lumps?
    I don't have any bloods, but my fire ball python had a strange sort-of hard lump in the same area you said the lump in your blood is. A few days later it turned out it was just a urate. :)
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