Are these males cinnamon or normal?

Definitely not Cinnies, NWE has an identification guide on these and black pastels thats really helpful; link below.

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=45652

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Originally Posted by starmom

*That* is the elusive bodiless ball python.... :P

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Lol, that's great MacKenzie lol. I'm gonna have to keep my eyes open for one of them dang bodiless balls. Does that mean there's a headless ball out there somewhere?

But definitely not cinnies and not het cinny lol.