Here is my guy

He's a Pastel alright. - (this statement is based on my limited knowledge, but I'd like to wager on this one being a Pastel anyway)

That's a pastel.

Hi,

Thanks for the photo's. :D

Yup I say pastel too. :gj:


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the pics of him in his hide is just too cute!

Thanks everyone. I appreciate your replies. Now here is the million dollar question. What makes y'all say pastel. I look at everyone's pastel and they are always bright yellow or really light. He's dark. Is he just a poor quality pastel? Don't worry about insulting him, I don't care. I didn't pay much more than a normal, the incremental amount is insignificant to me. We picked him because we all thought he's beautiful. I didn't know anything about morphs at the time. We just like the way he looks. I'm just curious.

Next question. Is cinnamon the same as cinnamon pastel? Is cinnamon pastel the same as black pastel? In case it isn't obvious by now, I'm not really comprehending what I read about morphs.

When I look at pictures, I tend to be drawn to the brown patterned snakes. Especially since I already have one that has a jet black pattern. I would like to get him a girl to breed with. Is a cinnamon a good choice? I'm going to a show next week. How much can I expect a good cinnamon to cost? Are there any other morphs that are dark brown, rather than black (not solid, patterned.)

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Originally Posted by IguanaMama

Thanks everyone. I appreciate your replies. Now here is the million dollar question. What makes y'all say pastel. I look at everyone's pastel and they are always bright yellow or really light. He's dark. Is he just a poor quality pastel? Don't worry about insulting him, I don't care. I didn't pay much more than a normal, the incremental amount is insignificant to me. We picked him because we all thought he's beautiful. I didn't know anything about morphs at the time. We just like the way he looks. I'm just curious.

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I'd say you got a pretty good deal then! There are certain things that you can look at to tell whether or not they are a pastel. Check out the Hunter's guide to the Morphs that was posted earlier it'll give you a lot of clues. As far as him being a "poor quality" pastel, that's all up to you! Some people like pastels that brown out more, some people like the crazy neon yellow like the lemon pastels. It's your snake, you're the one who has promised to give him a home for the rest of his life and if you like his color that's all that matters!

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Next question. Is cinnamon the same as cinnamon pastel? Is cinnamon pastel the same as black pastel? In case it isn't obvious by now, I'm not really comprehending what I read about morphs.

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"Cinnamon pastel" is it's own seperate thing. There are various differences between them not the least of which that a pastel bred to a pastel produces super pastels, while a cinnamon bred to a cinnamon (or cinny) may produce all BLACK snakes!

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When I look at pictures, I tend to be drawn to the brown patterned snakes. Especially since I already have one that has a jet black pattern. I would like to get him a girl to breed with. Is a cinnamon a good choice? I'm going to a show next week. How much can I expect a good cinnamon to cost? Are there any other morphs that are dark brown, rather than black (not solid, patterned.)

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That's all up to you, if you like the look of cinnamons go with that! Again it's all based on what you like and what is going to make you happy. I personally love cinnamons and a pastel bred to a cinnamon may produce Pewters! My absolute favorite morph ever. A female cinny can cost anywhere from $300 to $600 depending on who's selling it, what line it comes from (graziani tends to be the nicest IMO and therefore the most expensive) and the quality of it. Remember also that it takes 2-3 years at least to get a female up to breeding size but if you're willing to wait it will be WELL worth it.

deifintely pastel the high yellow it soo much for even a bright normal.. I hace a normal with bright highlights and a pastel.. that's a pastel