More than Normal? Im new can you help?

Full belly shot? Or at least more than that?

She's definitely a normal, but if she has a completely clear belly, that's a really nice specimen for a normal. :]

I will and get a belly shot up tomorrow. Not to change the subject but on a side note what are yall expecting to pay for pastels? I'd like to by another snake now and maybe breed them in a few years. But I don't want to buy an older snake later on. And the only Morphs I can find some what local are albinos and piebald and they want 900 and 2k for them at 10wks old.

Pastel males usually run around $100-200 as babies. They are a great starter morph because they are inexpensive and they produce visual morphs rather than hets. Females are a little more maybe $50 more on average. I picked mine up from a friend, he's a got a few more pastels left, they are from the NERD line of pastels and he's asking around $150 with shipping. So don't overpay! Unless you are looking for something really specific you can get really nice pastels for a decent price.

Im not familiar with any blood line names or anything but im asuming NERD is just a good line of snakes? do any of yall buy your snakes online? if so how safe is it? i didnt know till i got on here that you could have snakes shipped to you. i figured itd stress them out to much....any way if it can be done wheres a good place for a quality snake. i really want a nice pastel male. and is your friend selling them still? how would i go about getting in touch with him?

I've bought all but a couple of my snakes online, it's fine--just be sure that you ask questions about how the snakes will be shipped! Make sure they'll be using a carrier that knows what's in the box, and that it will be properly labeled, and include a heat pack if it's cold.

NERD is New England Reptile Distributers, a big breeder of ball pythons and other snakes.

A lot of the big breeders have developed their own lineages of selectively bred ball pythons morphs. Graziani pastels look different from NERD pastels, for example.

The key to remember with pastels: Orange on hatchlings will generally turn to brown on adults, and adult pastels can be very brown.

NERD is one of the best breeders out there. I don't think they have any pastels available right now but you can always call Kevin and see. Their phone # is on their website. Expect to pay more though if you buy directly from them since you are paying for the name as well as for the quality of the animals they produce. I got my spider from them and I am so happy with him. I did pay more than I would if I had gotten him online but in the end the quality of the animal and the fact that I was able to just go pick him out and not have to pay shipping made up for it big time.

thanks for the help everyone,this is really a great site to get on and get help. alot of forums bash on the new guys who dont know much lol....but i will look into those NERDS and i think i might have found a decent site too that someone else on here recomended.

And as far as my snake goes, i tried gettin more pics of her belly today. but couldnt get much more than i already have on here. Shes a bit of a camera hog i suppose, as soon as i get the camera out she just want to put her face in it till i put it away, and isnt bothered by it at all. guess its good until i need to get some belly pics. but her stomach is pretty much identical all the way up.

Nice normal! Welcome to the forum!

I have a Graziani line pastel descendent. Didn't brown out and is just a sweetheart of a snake.

But look at a few lines, check out a few sites, you'll get a feel for what is nice and what appeals to you and what the market price is.

I paid well above market price for my guy, but I felt it was worth it. So depends on what you're looking for.

And your BP looks like a nice normal. Even better is a nice normal with an attentive keeper. Best thing any BP could have.

Welcome to the site. We like to talk about snakes btw. :)

Bruce

I PMed you :D

I love this site too! Everyone is soooooo helpful. If you're ever looking to buy online, just ask people on here if they have bought from that person before and what they think. More than likely someone will know the breeder :gj: