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  • 10-16-2008, 03:06 PM
    anendeloflorien
    Re: Do I understand this correct?
    Here's what I got when I plugged it into the genetics wizard

    Het. clown, Het. ghost,
    x
    Het. clown, Het. ghost,

    6.25% WT
    12.5% Het. ghost,
    6.25% Homozygous ghost,
    12.5% Het. clown,
    25% Het. clown, Het. ghost,
    12.5% Het. clown, Homozygous ghost,
    6.25% Homozygous clown,
    12.5% Homozygous clown, Het. ghost,
    6.25% Homozygous clown, Homozygous ghost,

    So all in all not a huge chance to get the match but still would be fun to see :D
  • 10-16-2008, 03:29 PM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: Do I understand this correct?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PythonWallace View Post
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by uafgrad View Post
    Thanks
    So if it was recessive, then you would need to do a second breeding with the offspring to get the desired morph?

    i.e. if you had a hypo and bred it to a clown 100%HET Hypo, you would end up with a hypo that is 100% Het clown. Bred back to a clown you would have a hypo clown?
    Correct?
    No, you would not have any ghost clowns from that breeding.

    I think your just reading too fast :P

    Let's break down the bolded part:
    Hypo x Clown het hypo

    All animals from that breeding are either hypo or het hypo, and all are het for clown.

    If he were to breed one of those hypos back to the parent Clown het hypo...

    Hypo het clown x Clown het Hypo

    YES, he could get Hypo Clowns. :gj:
  • 10-16-2008, 03:34 PM
    blackcrystal22
    Re: Do I understand this correct?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by littleindiangirl View Post
    I think your just reading too fast :P

    Let's break down the bolded part:
    Hypo x Clown het hypo

    All animals from that breeding are either hypo or het hypo, and all are het for clown.

    If he were to breed one of those hypos back to the parent Clown het hypo...

    Hypo het clown x Clown het Hypo

    YES, he could get Hypo Clowns. :gj:

    Hypo Het. Clown X Clown Het. Hypo
    =
    Hypo Clowns

    What about...
    Hypo Het. Clown X Hypo Het. Clown
    Or
    Clown Het. Hypo X Clown Het. Hypo

    ?
  • 10-16-2008, 03:46 PM
    uafgrad
    Re: Do I understand this correct?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pwilliams58 View Post
    All this talk of a hypo clown...does it exist yet?

    Not that I have been able to find but I think that it would be a pretty sweet looking morph. Im sure it will be produced before I would even have enough saved up and be able to find a clown het hypo though. Just kind of food for thought on my part
  • 10-16-2008, 04:05 PM
    PythonWallace
    Re: Do I understand this correct?
    Any combination of 2 snakes that are BOTH at least het for hypo and clown can produce ghost clowns. In his last sentance, the one that actually mentioned producing his first double recessive ghost clown, he asked if breeding a hypo that is het for clown back to a clown would give him ghost clowns. The answer is no. He also mentioned that he'd have at least double hets, which would get him the double homozyous animal, but that is not what he asked. The only thing I was confused about was why he would breed a hypo het clown to a clown, when he could breed the hypo het clown to another hypo het clown, or a double het, or a clown het hypo. All those would produce a double recessive, but the final pairing he asked about would not. I don't need a punnett square or a program to know that you can't get a homozygous hypo from a straight up clown. :)

    Quote:

    i.e. if you had a hypo and bred it to a clown 100%HET Hypo, you would end up with a hypo that is 100% Het clown. Bred back to a clown you would have a hypo clown?
    Correct?
    No.
  • 10-16-2008, 04:32 PM
    PythonWallace
    Re: Do I understand this correct?
    I think we are all right if we can assume the clown he would be breeding back to is also het for hypo. I'd just hate to see someone spend all that money and do years of work, then blow it by thinking you could get a hypo clown from a hypo het clown x clown. I see where you are all coming from and you are all right, but you are saying something different than the original question. :)
  • 10-16-2008, 11:54 PM
    JAMills
    Re: Do I understand this correct?
    Actually it is in the wording of the original question. Yes I assumed that he would breed back to the Clown het hypo but his post actually does say

    "if you had a hypo and bred it to a clown 100%HET Hypo, you would end up with a hypo that is 100% Het clown. Bred back to a clown you would have a hypo clown?
    Correct? "

    So if you take the post word for word then no the pairing that is stated would not create the double homo. If you assume the animal was actually meant to be the original Clown Het Hypo then it is possible (though not a guarantee) to get the Double homo.
    So it is really just a matter of wether you assumed or took the post word for word.
  • 10-17-2008, 12:16 AM
    Lateralus_Love
    Re: Do I understand this correct?
    In my opinion since he says "breed back...", then it'd be the original clown het hypo. Even though he doesn't specificy it's the clown het hypo he'd be breeding with, he says breeding back, which insinuates he's breeding with the clown he already bred with, which is ultimately the clown het hypo.
  • 10-17-2008, 10:12 PM
    PythonWallace
    Re: Do I understand this correct?
    He says, "breed back to A clown". And I don't assume. When you assume it only makes an ass of u and me. :D I'm pretty sure it was just worded wrong, but like I said before, I'd hate to see someone spend all that time and money for a couple of years then blow it by doing the pairing he asked about.
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