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The Mojave Pied!!!

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  • 10-08-2008, 12:27 PM
    Ladydragon
    Re: The Mojave Pied!!!
    very pretty. I like the frosted look as well. I wonder if all mojo pieds would be high white like this or would there be more variability to the degree of white per snake. anybody venture to guess? :D
  • 10-08-2008, 04:40 PM
    RandyRemington
    Re: The Mojave Pied!!!
    I think the Vin Russo Pied was high white and the Lesser Pied was all white so it seems likely that the white snake gene some how encourages the homozygous pied to be high white. The spider pied seems to also be consistently high white with a longer track record but spider doesn't appear to be part of the white snake complex as far as I know (has anyone posted results from spider mojave to normal breedings yet?). So I would expect that while anything is possible the mojave pieds might be consistently high white like these three.

    Also, anyone know what the coconut pied in the available and what's happening page on www.roussisreptiles.com is? I just heard about it and don't know if he is keeping it secrete or not.

    I’m actually still really excited about all white snakes (although these Mojave pieds are very nice) and the whiter the better so am very interested in working toward an all pied white snake.
  • 10-08-2008, 04:47 PM
    RoyalGuardian
    Re: The Mojave Pied!!!
    Sooooo pretty! I love love it! So if you were to breed this little one to a normal you would be able to get mojos, pieds, and normals?
  • 10-08-2008, 04:55 PM
    jkobylka
    Re: The Mojave Pied!!!
    I like it! I'm glad all the BEL complex animals seem to have different looks when combined with the pied....

    Justin
  • 10-08-2008, 05:05 PM
    nevohraalnavnoj
    Re: The Mojave Pied!!!
    It's interesting how the characteristics of the mojo are totally changed with the pied gene. I thought it would look more like a mojo, but instead it has that uniform soft tone to it! Interesting!

    JonV
  • 10-08-2008, 05:05 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: The Mojave Pied!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RandyRemington View Post
    I think the Vin Russo Pied was high white and the Lesser Pied was all white so it seems likely that the white snake gene some how encourages the homozygous pied to be high white. The spider pied seems to also be consistently high white with a longer track record but spider doesn't appear to be part of the white snake complex as far as I know (has anyone posted results from spider mojave to normal breedings yet?). So I would expect that while anything is possible the mojave pieds might be consistently high white like these three.

    Also, anyone know what the coconut pied in the available and what's happening page on www.roussisreptiles.com is? I just heard about it and don't know if he is keeping it secrete or not.

    I’m actually still really excited about all white snakes (although these Mojave pieds are very nice) and the whiter the better so am very interested in working toward an all pied white snake.

    I have a theory regarding the spider pied. Genetically speaking Pied is a for of Leucism . My theory is that the white sides on a spider are also a form of Leucism and that the two forms work together to form a mostly white snake.
  • 10-08-2008, 05:06 PM
    RandyRemington
    Re: The Mojave Pied!!!
    These are homozygous pied and heterozygous mojave so when bred to a normal all the babies will be het pied but each will have a 50% chance of also being mojave.

    Care to post any pictures of the mojave het pied father? If mojave makes the homozygous pied more white I'm wondering if it has an effect on the heterozygous pied. Of course the mojave belly is already white so maybe it's harder to pick a mojave het pied than even a normal het pied.
  • 10-08-2008, 05:22 PM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: The Mojave Pied!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jkobylka View Post
    I like it! I'm glad all the BEL complex animals seem to have different looks when combined with the pied....

    Justin

    I agree Justin, I assumed it would look like the lesser pied.
    It does remind me of your yellowbelly pied that comes out high white and very clean colors where they do show up. very interesting.

    Thanks for sharing Heather, I havent seen Becky in a while and I came close to buying a mojave pos het pied from her, now I wish I would have:(
  • 10-08-2008, 06:12 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: The Mojave Pied!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RoyalGuardian View Post
    Sooooo pretty! I love love it! So if you were to breed this little one to a normal you would be able to get mojos, pieds, and normals?

    Nope.

    Mojo Pied to a Normal would get you Normals and Mojaves 100% het for Pied

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RandyRemington View Post
    Care to post any pictures of the mojave het pied father? If mojave makes the homozygous pied more white I'm wondering if it has an effect on the heterozygous pied. Of course the mojave belly is already white so maybe it's harder to pick a mojave het pied than even a normal het pied.

    I would have to ask... I can see what I can do.
  • 10-08-2008, 06:14 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: The Mojave Pied!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RandyRemington View Post
    Also, anyone know what the coconut pied in the available and what's happening page on www.roussisreptiles.com is? I just heard about it and don't know if he is keeping it secrete or not.


    http://www.roussisreptiles.com/colle...tewedding.html
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