Re: spiderball genetics ?
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AaronP
Actually I think Brian @ BHB is trying to see if there really is a "Super" Spider and by that I mean a spider that if bred to a normal will produce 100% spiders, like a Super Cinny makes all Cinny's when bred to a normal last I heard he was testing that out this year.
I don't know about spider, but he believes he may have a super Pinstripe, because he has a male that has produced all pin's so far. He'd need another season or two to prove it out.
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Now it doesnt exactly say if it was produced in the wild, or in someone's collection, but that sorta makes it sound like it wasnt wild caught. I dunno tho. Either way i think its true that they all came from one.
That means that Kevin bred his spider to a normal and produced an animal that looked like his original spider. There are several examples (The Sunset for one) that have not proven to be re-produceable and are not considered "produced". What does Graziani's site say about the "production" of other morphs for example?
Re: spiderball genetics ?
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Originally Posted by
evil mechanic
On Graziani's website it says "This mutation was produced and proven dominant in 1999"
Now it doesnt exactly say if it was produced in the wild, or in someone's collection, but that sorta makes it sound like it wasnt wild caught. I dunno tho. Either way i think its true that they all came from one.
I think your rather reading wrong.
"The mutation was produced (it was replicated) and proven dominant in 1999." when it was replicated it was proven dominant at the same time that they produced more of them in captivity from the wild caught animal.
The first spider was a wild caught. Kevin discussed it on Reptile Radio with Larry and BT.
I also agree with Randy, spiders are one of the most outbred animals out there, to think that inbreeding caused the spinning is a ridiculous notion to me.
Re: spiderball genetics ?
Well, the first off spring from the spiders were spinning or wobbling, so I know its not from inbreeding. I like how people say that they believe all spiders spin or wobble, even if you cannot detect it. Do you have many spiders to prove that point? My last spider did not wobble or spin, at eating or any other time. Her tank was right next to my bed so I was able to watch her constantly. She NEVER spinned or wobbled. I have also seen many others that have not. Not during feeding or at night, while drinking or in spite. hfpt( Its getting late...)
Re: spiderball genetics ?
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Originally Posted by
Beardedragon
Well, the first off spring from the spiders were spinning or wobbling, so I know its not from inbreeding. I like how people say that they believe all spiders spin or wobble, even if you cannot detect it. Do you have many spiders to prove that point? My last spider did not wobble or spin, at eating or any other time. Her tank was right next to my bed so I was able to watch her constantly. She NEVER spinned or wobbled. I have also seen many others that have not. Not during feeding or at night, while drinking or in spite. hfpt( Its getting late...)
Have you read this, Matt?
http://forum.8ballpythons.com/blog/?p=5
