Super Cinnamon x

Hi,

But each super gives one gene to the offspring. What makes you say one couldnt give cinny and the other also give a cinny?

It's not so much a homozygous animal as a double co-dom isn't it?


dr del

good to see a lot ppl having the same thought processes as I had ,lol

aint genes fantastic ! thank you Mr Mendal .

thank peeps for all the imput , the fact that it WOULD produce Supers ( SC x BP ) was the main thing I wanted to confirm .

want another headache ppl ? Sc , Cinnamon = Super Cinny

Black Pastel is a morph in its own right yeah , as is Cinnamon ( you know whats coming ? )

SC xBP = Supers and Cinnamons ....so where did the Black Pastel gene go ? !!!!! Did it become a cinny somewhere in the mix?

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,

But each super gives one gene to the offspring. What makes you say one couldnt give cinny and the other also give a cinny?

It's not so much a homozygous animal as a double co-dom isn't it?


dr del

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Because if theres two supers, and if even only one has black pastel in it along with the cinny, it will pass on the black pastel to the super.

Great Derek youve got me confused:rolleye2:

Bleh. breed c/b to c/b the supers of the offspring HAVE to be c/b!!

If it has the chance to pass on both of its genes, it has to. Meaning the supers will have to be both.

Get me? Whats your phone number I cant explain this in typing:taz:

RT, if there are supers and cinnys, it it means all the black pastels are in the supers.

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You breed a cinny to a normal....


You get 50% cinnys, 50% normals

lets say its a clutch of 5, you get three cinnys and two normals.

Now lets say the parents were a super cinny to a black pastel, we all know the normals are now cinnys, and the Black pastels which there were also three, turn into three super cinnys/blacks.

NOW... Lets say the parents were a super c/b to a black pastel. The normals are one black pastel and a cinny, the three cinnys of the clutch just got the cinny gene, and because there is not and black pastel, the black pastel turns it into a super b/c!!


With the normals you cant mix a cinny and a black pastel without making a cinny, so they were turned into one of the two.


Breed a super c/b to a super c/b and like the above, you can mix the two without getting a eight ball, but they have to mix in the supers causing every super to be a super c/b
Get me?






(note, pretend here, youd have pretty great odds if all this happened! But it is what would happen.)

Hi,

No because they aren't really Super Cinnies.

They are a double combo of similar genes that merely result in a similar looking animal.

If they truly were SC's then breeding to a normal would only result in cinnamons not cinnamons and black pastels. :)


And now for Bd, :)

No each animal passes one fo the pair but it can pass either - if it is a pure SC then it can only give cinnys and a pure SBP can only give black pastels but a mix super isn't really a super in the same way and could pass on either.


dr del

Take it like this, if you breed a caramel glow to a caramel glow, your not going to get a few caramels, a few ghosts, and a few cgs. you will get all Caramel glows.

Hi,

Yes but caramel glows are double homozygous recessives not co-dom.

They have both genes the same in both snakes so cannot give any different versions. In the cinamon black pastel there are two versions of the gene each of which can be passed to the offspring.

I need a spell checker for this stuff. :(


dr del

Im tell'in ya Derek that if you breed Super black/cinny to super black/cinny all the snakes would be super cinnys/blacks!!:rolleye2:

Hi,

And I'm saying you wont. :P


dr del

My understanding is in agreement with ya Derek ( Scots wahay !!! lol ) For it to be all SC/Bs then every gene would have to fall in the exact same locus all the time , extremely unlikely , so be ( if lucky ) a combo of SC/Bs AND c/bs