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  • 08-23-2008, 11:55 PM
    blackcrystal22
    Re: Need Help - Anyone Everr See Somthing Like This?
    I'd PM Becky (SatanicIntention) because I think if anyone were to know, she'd be one of them.

    Let us know after the vet e-mails too! Don't touch it too much then though cause it seems that it's painful. :]
  • 08-23-2008, 11:58 PM
    SPJ
    Re: Need Help - Anyone Everr See Somthing Like This?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackcrystal22 View Post
    I'd PM Becky (SatanicIntention) because I think if anyone were to know, she'd be one of them.

    Let us know after the vet e-mails too! Don't touch it too much then though cause it seems that it's painful. :]

    I'll try her. Thanks.

    I won't be touching it anymore. He made it bloody well known he did not like it. :rofl:
  • 08-24-2008, 12:39 AM
    Bruce Whitehead
    Re: Need Help - Anyone Everr See Somthing Like This?
    looks to be on the muscle on the back of the head?... could it be a swollen/inflamed muscle?

    Bruce
  • 08-24-2008, 12:40 AM
    blackcrystal22
    Re: Need Help - Anyone Everr See Somthing Like This?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Loft Lizard View Post
    looks to be on the muscle on the back of the head?... could it be a swollen/inflamed muscle?

    Bruce

    Are there muscles there? Usable ones? O.o
  • 08-24-2008, 12:51 AM
    sweety314
    Re: Need Help - Anyone Everr See Somthing Like This?
    OMG!!! I can't believe this! Abby's had one almost exactly like it for about a month now. At first, I thought it was like Sharee's experience w/a tapeworm cyst, so when I noticed it had gotten larger I took him to the vet. He's since been to the vet a total of 3 different times. No cyst or abcess of any kind at all, but .......

    The vet just lanced it after taking radiographs (x-rays) b/c the vet said it had a boney protrusion, and he wanted pics before doing any cutting.

    The last time, he just lanced it, getting about 1cc of clear fluid.

    It's since gotten bigger again, and I drained it at home. Nothing definitive as to root cause, but my vet is still doing some digging and research.

    If YOU find out anything definite, I would REAAAAAAALLY be interested. But Abby's is over his eye and just behind the "browbone", a little more forward than your snake's...enough so that above Abby's eye was a little deformed when it got really big.


    I'll tag you too, if I hear anything from Dr. F.


    RuLyn
  • 08-24-2008, 12:52 AM
    SatanicIntention
    Re: Need Help - Anyone Everr See Somthing Like This?
    Yes, there are muscles there, large ones. I told him it looked like an abscess and to have it lanced. It's too close to an eye for me to feel comfortable not doing anything about it.

    All the vet has to do is anesthetize the snake, lance the abscess, clean it out, flush it, possibly put a drain in to keep it open so it doesn't reform, and then put the snake on injectable antibiotics for 2 weeks or so.

    If it's not an abscess, then they need to get a sample of it and send it off to the lab. Cancer can be possible too.. :(
  • 08-24-2008, 05:39 PM
    SPJ
    Re: Need Help - Anyone Everr See Somthing Like This?
    Not encouraging. Someone gave me this link regarding what happened with one of their BP's.

    http://client.visuallink.com/~krawls/id37.htm
  • 08-24-2008, 08:53 PM
    emptyblackstare
    Re: Need Help - Anyone Everr See Somthing Like This?
    that was a sad read. I hope you have better luck.
  • 09-06-2008, 04:00 AM
    sweety314
    Re: Need Help - Anyone Everr See Somthing Like This?
    Any updates yet? I drained Abby's yesterday and got about .2cc clear fluid. Just the boney protrusions now, until/unless it fills up again.

    Good luck with yours!
  • 09-08-2008, 01:54 PM
    SPJ
    Re: Need Help - Anyone Everr See Somthing Like This?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sweety314 View Post
    Any updates yet? I drained Abby's yesterday and got about .2cc clear fluid. Just the boney protrusions now, until/unless it fills up again.

    Good luck with yours!

    Not good. He is going downhill FAST!
    He was at the vet last week. They did a needle biopsy and the fluid was more like a mucus so they were not sure if it was really an abcess.
    They did a cytology and aerobic culture.
    Cytology results of the 5 slides were:

    Microscopic Description: Cellularity was moderately high with a small amount of blood. Cells were a mixture of heterophils, lymphocytes and azurophils. Mixed bacteria were observed. No cellular atypia suggestive of neoplasia was evident.

    Cytological Interpretation: Septic inflamation.

    Comments: Culture results will be helpful to determine appropriate antibiotic therapy.

    The culture results showed 3+ gram negative rods and 3+ aeromomas species.

    Treatment was prescribed as 0.08 ml of Fortaz injected IM every 3 days for a total of 10 injections.

    Now for the bad part. Here he is a week after this.
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v440/SPJ01/worse.jpg

    I just got back from the vet again. They have no idea what is going on now since he has blown up so much in such a short amount of time. He has also lost 50 grams in the past week and his skin is flaking.

    I have been told by the vet to contact Dr. Mayer at Tufts University. No one else in the state would be able to help at this point. A highly skilled specialist is now needed and the Fortaz may be ineffective.
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