Any suggestions...

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Originally Posted by Royal_Rodents

i believe they are protected in hawaii? or maybe thats just the spieces of blind snake. native to hawaii "hawaiian blind snake?"

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i know they have them there but not sure on the protected part. i do know that they try to act like they dont even have any snakes of any kind

Sorry people, no blindsnakes. I should've mentioned in the starting post that the snake you suggest also has to grow near the said limit (2'). Besides, blindsnakes are unimpressive, smaller and thinner than any snake I've kept (including the garter), and not widely bred either.

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Originally Posted by jknudson

Rubber boa!:gj:

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Aren't those hard to get? I can only get a snake that's for sale at the local expo, not from an online store.

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Originally Posted by dsirkle

I agree. Or spotted python which are much the same.

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Spotteds actually get a bit bigger than Childrens. Though I think either would be a good choice, as they don't get very bulky at all, and even a huge female Spotted will probably top out at 4 feet. They say they can get up to 5, but that's probably about as common as the 14 foot boas you hear about.

If even that is too big, then I say maybe a Rosy boa or sand boa.

Any particular reason you have such a small size limit? Bigger snakes just make you nervous, space constraints, ect.?

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Originally Posted by kzooherpetoculturist

if you are willing to go a little larger, then i'd say childrens python...

if not, then i'd have to say get another hognose. they're hard to beat for small species anyway.

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If I could go a little larger then I would get a female Western Hognose or a Rosy Boa. But unfortunately, I can't. Can you provide some information about Children's Pythons?

Seems like you only want tiny snakes, but you could maybe consider a male bp. I know it is a little bigger than you are looking for, but it fits everything else perfectly, while still being manageable in size and thus, would not take much more husbandry work.

2 foot snakes.

Lessee.... Childrens are managable, and really, adults are quite tiny, but still a good thickness.

Kenyan sand boas, or rough scaled sand boas. Either are very manageable.

have you looked into boas as well? there are a few species, while exceeding 2 feet, that will probably only eat small rats for their entire lives, and more than likely can just stay on mice. Caulker Cay boas, and Sabogae come to mind. But are pricier, especially sabs. But i like to suggest both, because they really are very small.

Personally, id go with the childrens 100%. They are COOL snakes! I'd be happy to get myself a pair in time.

Also, male ball pythons stay relatively smallish.. so that could be a possibility

Connie mentioned it earlier, but I haven't seen any discussion on it yet....what about the Kenyan Sand Boas? VERY easy to care for...they stay really short...and their nice 'n chunky for their size. And they're just really neat animals all the way around...from their colors to their handle-ability to their burrowing habits.

EDIT: Ok...mooingtricycle and I were typing at the same time....I still say go KSB! (Or Rough Scaled...those are cool, too!)

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Originally Posted by spix14

Spotteds actually get a bit bigger than Childrens. Though I think either would be a good choice, as they don't get very bulky at all, and even a huge female Spotted will probably top out at 4 feet. They say they can get up to 5, but that's probably about as common as the 14 foot boas you hear about.

If even that is too big, then I say maybe a Rosy boa or sand boa.

Any particular reason you have such a small size limit? Bigger snakes just make you nervous, space constraints, ect.?

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Rosy Boas grow more than 2'. And the reason I have this limit is because my parents won't let me get anything bigger than 2'. If you saw my sig and some of my posts a few months ago you would see that I really wanted a Rosy Boa. BTW, I held a 10', 27-pound JCP (unassisted) a bit more than 2 weeks ago, so I'm fine with snakes of any size.

Hrmm...maybe a Scarlet Kingsnake?

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/j...kingsnake1.jpg