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  • 06-12-2008, 10:23 AM
    SatanicIntention
    Re: central nerve problem
    What breeder did you get him from? Have you contacted them to see if any of their other snakes are showing symptoms? Did you get the snake at a reptile expo?

    Where did the rodents come from that you fed him? How old? Live or frozen?

    If he had dislocated a vertebrae then he would be paralyzed from that area down. He wouldn't be able to breathe.

    Boas from US collections are able to be shipped over to Europe, so it's possible(just covering bases) that an IBD carrier infected him if you got the snake at an expo.

    He may have been exposed to another type of virus or more resistant strain of bacteria. It could also be poisoning, maybe from what he ate.

    Whatever he has, if he cannot hydrate himself(drink), then he's not going to do well. Your vet may want to do a blood culture just in case. Keeping him hydrated is very important right now.
  • 06-12-2008, 11:13 AM
    Monty
    Re: central nerve problem
    could it have to do with the substrate i know some woods will cause neurological problems
  • 06-12-2008, 11:32 AM
    Teja
    Re: central nerve problem
    yes, maybe x rays too. tomorow will take a very litle sample of blood.

    nobody here doesn't have a clue. if is not trauma, if is not bacterial infection, if is not spine dislocation, what could be... don't know.

    i can't even see him like that anymore.
  • 06-12-2008, 11:45 AM
    Teja
    Re: central nerve problem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Monty View Post
    could it have to do with the substrate i know some woods will cause neurological problems

    which woods exactly?
  • 06-12-2008, 11:50 AM
    ChicaPiton519
    Re: central nerve problem
    cedar and pine are bad for snakes...
    what type is he on?

    was the mouse live? and have you looked in his mouth yet?
  • 06-12-2008, 11:52 AM
    Teja
    Re: central nerve problem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SatanicIntention View Post
    What breeder did you get him from? Have you contacted them to see if any of their other snakes are showing symptoms? Did you get the snake at a reptile expo?

    Where did the rodents come from that you fed him? How old? Live or frozen?

    If he had dislocated a vertebrae then he would be paralyzed from that area down. He wouldn't be able to breathe.

    Boas from US collections are able to be shipped over to Europe, so it's possible(just covering bases) that an IBD carrier infected him if you got the snake at an expo.

    He may have been exposed to another type of virus or more resistant strain of bacteria. It could also be poisoning, maybe from what he ate.

    Whatever he has, if he cannot hydrate himself(drink), then he's not going to do well. Your vet may want to do a blood culture just in case. Keeping him hydrated is very important right now.

    breeder from Slovenija, everybody are satesfied with it. other snakes of it are not ill, that what it was sayed.

    what is reptile expo? who exports reptiles, so they can be ill?

    his food came from the breeder also, frozen. they are very little mice with a hair.

    how can I hidrate him? but he goes to water too.

    thank you for your answers very much
  • 06-12-2008, 11:58 AM
    kc261
    Re: central nerve problem
    I can't add any guesses that haven't already been offered.

    It looks horrible from the video though. I hope you are able to get the problem identified soon!
  • 06-12-2008, 12:05 PM
    Teja
    Re: central nerve problem
    mouse was not alive. he has been used to dead mice.

    his substrat is some kind like this; (you should be able to see the image
    http://www.mrpet.si/images/plazilci/...rind_small.jpg

    it is not cedar or pine.

    sorry, but have you NEVER seen something like this?
    because here nobody saw something like this before. so I guess mayby around the world:) who already saw such behaviour.
  • 06-12-2008, 12:12 PM
    ChicaPiton519
    Re: central nerve problem
    well, the only thing that comes close [but not even 1% as severe] is when my JCP female missed her rat and got a mouthfull of bedding, she was trying to get it out of her mouth and kept twisting her head like that... but again, it wasnt as bad as that...

    have you had a chance to get her mouth open? to be sure nothing is caught in there?
  • 06-12-2008, 12:21 PM
    xdeus
    Re: central nerve problem
    Unfortunately it seems like your snake has some sort of neurological disorder. This can be caused by a number of things such as disease but more commonly environmental factors such as over-heating, dehydration, injury, and chemical agents.

    Quite often it is not treatable and ultimately the snake has to be euthanized. I would give it some time, though. Clean out the cage with a mild soap solution and rinse completely with water, then place clean hides and a water bowl on a paper towel substrate. Hopefully something will show up in the blood test that can be treated.

    Good luck!
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