Locality Ball Pythons?

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Originally Posted by jnjreptiles

Give us a call or email, we have a clutch of them that we hatched here from a gravid w.c sub Sahara, and just called a friend who bought a gravid one from us to, and bought his clutch too.

I do not know of anyone else selling these, availability is very limited.

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How much bigger do these "giants" get?

The female that we had lay eggs, was deathly skinny, she looked horrible when she came in and was 4.5' and weighed 3300 grams, after dropping 8 eggs she weighed 2200 grams.

They can get HUGE, I have seen them as big as 6500 grams, and know of ones that have been imported as big as 8100 grams. In Africa they have been reported 9200 grams (about 9 kilo).
There have been 18-21 egg clutches in the U.S and reports of a 27 egg clutch in Ghana.

They are not a vary common animal and cost big $$ just to get them, when I first heard of them 2 years ago, w.c average size females were going twice as much as w.c female yellow bellies

Think of one of these bred into morphs like Carmel glows for example, the 1 in 16 odds are not as hard when you have 16 eggs.

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Originally Posted by jnjreptiles

They can get HUGE, I have seen them as big as 6500 grams, and know of ones that have been imported as big as 8100 grams. In Africa they have been reported 9200 grams (about 9 kilo).
There have been 18-21 egg clutches in the U.S and reports of a 27 egg clutch in Ghana.

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That is absolutely crazy! Have you run across any pictures of such beasts?

I dont have any pics of them, I posted pics on here of the ones we had on a thread with giant ball python in the title. The big ones I have seen were at my suppliers place, no camera allowed.

I m trying to get a really big mosterous one next time they collect in that area, if I can get one I will post pics.

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Originally Posted by jnjreptiles

I dont have any pics of them, I posted pics on here of the ones we had on a thread with giant ball python in the title. The big ones I have seen were at my suppliers place, no camera allowed.

I m trying to get a really big mosterous one next time they collect in that area, if I can get one I will post pics.

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I found that thread. Very interesting. Any update on a different growth rate than you've experienced with other balls? I wish in the picture of the dead snake in alcohol the guy would've just uncoiled the thing to give us a better perspective!

I know this is an old thread, but I wanted to chime in...

I just picked up two girls that were labelled as "big gene" girls.
2200 and 2500 grams. Both proven. He had another 4000 gram for sale.
I hope they really are "giants". I have plans for them.

Also, the locality-morph thing makes sense. Small, cut off populations will often have common genes among the population. There is an abandoned military base in upstate NY that has an entire herd of Albino white tail deer, and I believe some piebald deer. I've seen a Youtube video on them. It's a small, sustained population.