New Hognose snakes...

Nice Hoggers. I happen to like the solid ebony one (kind of looks like a Black Rat Snake). BTW, I never knew Easterns came in ebony... IMO, you should've have gotten a Western since they don't have any problems (with food or diseases) as long as you buy a CB one and they do have more attractive colors & patterns than Easterns in most people's opinion.

P.S. This message is for anyone who is reading this: why use the nickname "hoggie" when you can use the other nickname "Hogger"? You have to admit, "Hogger" does sound a lot better and cooler than "hoggie".

lol at the hoggie vs. hogger.

nice additions. gotta love hognoses, my little guy is becoming quite a BIG hisser.

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Originally Posted by .:LRG:.VinTaGe1947

I have the same problem that you had. It is my second year of college and I am adding to my herp collection (a snake). I just don’t know what kind to get a ball or a hognose.haha very hard pick:(

Congrats on the nice hogs

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If you want a Hognose snake, get a CB Western (which isn't that hard to find at an expo) and if you want it big, get a female because the size difference between male and a female is BIG (males average 18" while females average 24" but reach 30" occasionally).

I have had hoggies for over 30 years, and this forum is the first place I have ever heard them refered to as hoggers. They have always been called hoggies for slang to seperate them from being confused with hog island boas, which are refered to as hogs.

And no, I do not like the "hogger" slang better and all, might as well call them porker.:rolleyes:

PS the balck eastern is simply a melanistic animal.

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Originally Posted by Onua Nuva

If you want a Hognose snake, get a CB Western (which isn't that hard to find at an expo) and if you want it big, get a female because the size difference between male and a female is BIG (males average 18" while females average 24" but reach 30" occasionally).

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I am going to get my snake at a local super show at the end of the month. I think I am going to have to wait and see what the show has and pick what kind of snake I want from that.

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Originally Posted by FloridaHogs

I have had hoggies for over 30 years, and this forum is the first place I have ever heard them refered to as hoggers. They have always been called hoggies for slang to seperate them from being confused with hog island boas, which are refered to as hogs.

And no, I do not like the "hogger" slang better and all, might as well call them porker.:rolleyes:

PS the balck eastern is simply a melanistic animal.

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It's been said a lot actually, you just don't live in the Midwest so you've never heard it before. Hognose snakes have been in captivity way before HIBs, so Hoggers should have the right to be called "hogs" since they were around in captivity first (HIBs should have slang terms to avoid confusion with Hoggers, not the other way around). Also note that "Hogger" doesn't sound lame, while "porker" is lame.

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Originally Posted by Onua Nuva

It's been said a lot actually, you just don't live in the Midwest so you've never heard it before. Hognose snakes have been in captivity way before HIBs, so Hoggers should have the right to be called "hogs" since they were around in captivity first (HIBs should have slang terms to avoid confusion with Hoggers, not the other way around). Also note that "Hogger" doesn't sound lame, while "porker" is lame.

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I think the point he is trying to make is that while you may like the term "hogger", the common slang for them from the old school and most other forums is hoggie.

It's just the way it is, I don't see you changing that anytime soon.

Besides, it doesn't really matter what anyone calls them.

Yeah I like hoggies better than hoggers it just sounds better.

Man, I wish there were thanks buttons on this forum!:)

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Originally Posted by FloridaHogs

Man, I wish there were thanks buttons on this forum!:)

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reps....