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  • 05-20-2008, 08:51 AM
    MeMe
    Re: 2 Cornsnakes found dead :-(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BastianUSA View Post
    Ok so the tank was 10 gallons on both, one was heated with an UTH and the other with a lamp from above(50 watt 24 hour red light with lamp stand) both had a humidity at about 30-40% and sometmes a little higher(10 gallon made a few problems).
    Temp was at around 88-89 degrees on the hot and 80-84 on the cooler side.
    Water was always cleaned and there was no rodent in there,one was fed a few days before and ate good.
    One was housed on coconut shavings and the other on paper towels.


    what were you controlling your temps with?

    have you had a power outage...which could lead to a temp spike.

    how were they acting when you checked on them earlier that day? Were they moving around? coiled up in a corner?

    Also how long have you had them?

    I would also have them taken into the vet for testing.
  • 05-20-2008, 10:02 AM
    Blue Apple Herps
    Re: 2 Cornsnakes found dead :-(
    Those temps are way too warm for a corn. I aim for 80-82 on the warm side and about 8-10 degrees cooler on the other side. But even still, if they were that warm they probably would have gone to the cooler side, which even at 84º, should not have fried them. But if there was a heat spike or something, that could have done it.

    Do you have pictures of them you could post? Might help in determining if they did, in fact, get fried or dehydrated.
  • 05-20-2008, 10:11 AM
    wilomn
    Re: 2 Cornsnakes found dead :-(
    A fifty watt bulb on a 10 gallon tank will give you a hot spot directly underneath the bulb of about 95 to 100 degrees, possibly more.

    I don't recall seeing what you were using for bedding but my guess is you cooked these guys. With a UTH pad you need at least a couple of inches of bedding above it and you don't need more than 25 watts with a corn in a ten gallon tank.
  • 05-20-2008, 10:16 AM
    MeMe
    Re: 2 Cornsnakes found dead :-(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    A fifty watt bulb on a 10 gallon tank will give you a hot spot directly underneath the bulb of about 95 to 100 degrees, possibly more.

    I don't recall seeing what you were using for bedding but my guess is you cooked these guys. With a UTH pad you need at least a couple of inches of bedding above it and you don't need more than 25 watts with a corn in a ten gallon tank.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BastianUSA View Post
    One was on coconut shavings and the other on paper towels.

    Please help me.



    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blueapplepaste View Post
    Those temps are way too warm for a corn.


    way too warm?

    :confused:

    I think it is a lil warm but not way.



    My question is if it was too hot from the overhead light (a def possibility) then how did it kill both corns housed in seperate tanks at the same time on the same day?


    I would also like to see pics if you have any.
  • 05-20-2008, 10:29 AM
    bsd13
    Re: 2 Cornsnakes found dead :-(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MeMe View Post
    way too warm?

    :confused:

    I think it is a lil warm but not way.



    My question is if it was too hot from the overhead light (a def possibility) then how did it kill both corns housed in seperate tanks at the same time on the same day?


    I would also like to see pics if you have any.

    I second that. It just doesn't make sense that this could happen to two different snakes, in two different enclosures, with two different types of heat sources. Logically it is illogical unless we're missing a piece of the puzzle.
  • 05-20-2008, 10:31 AM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: 2 Cornsnakes found dead :-(
    I just find it strange their eyes were gone...
  • 05-20-2008, 01:32 PM
    kc261
    Re: 2 Cornsnakes found dead :-(
    I guess that "eyes gone" might really be eyes that were so dehydrated and sunk in that they looked gone? I don't think I've ever seen a dead dehydrated snake, so I don't know if the eyes would be so sunk in to appear gone.

    I'd really be curious to know what happened as well. I hope you figure it out!
  • 05-20-2008, 01:38 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: 2 Cornsnakes found dead :-(
    When any animal dessicates, the eyes do shrink into the body, as the interocular and vitreous fluid evaporates. If you've ever seen a dried fish before....

    It happens in people too...
  • 05-20-2008, 01:41 PM
    missi182
    Re: 2 Cornsnakes found dead :-(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LadyOhh View Post
    When any animal dessicates, the eyes do shrink into the body, as the vitrious fluid evaporates. If you've ever seen a dried fish before....

    It happens in people too...

    I had a tiny long tailed lizard a few years ago that died 24 hours after I brought him home, and his eyes appeared to be gone, but upon close inspection you could see that the eyes were there but sunken in and dried out completely.
  • 05-20-2008, 01:44 PM
    Mindibun
    Re: 2 Cornsnakes found dead :-(
    The eyes dry up and sink in within a few hours. I've seen it happen on quite a few animals, unfortunately. Nothing in my own personal collection, but various sick animals at places I've worked.
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