Condensation is bad for eggs, but how?

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Originally Posted by tigerlily

I was just reading the Barker's book, and I thought the eggs were laid just in time for the babies to hatch for the rainy season. :confuse:

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Well, given that there is such a long window of time in which they lay, and the variable of weather, I would guess that a good many eggs get rained on.

Plus, given the fact that many other pythons, granted from more humid areas but genetically close to ball pythons, have their eggs rained on regularly with no ill effects, personal experience with balls and extrapolation from other species, a bit of water isn't going to hurt the eggs any.

this is a quote from pythons of the world, volume II Ball Pythons the history, natural history, care and breeding by David and Tracey Barker page 230 "ball python eggs respire as they develop, takin in oxygen and releasing carbon dioxide. ...eggs can be suffocated in a small and airtight egg container if the container is not opened occasionally. ...As soon as an egg slits and the snake inside begins to breathe air, it is necessary that the egg container be ventilated,..."

here is another quote from the above refrenced book this time page 231 "you are creating an enviroment of high humidity, yet at the same time...ball python eggs do not tolorate getting wet. ...they cannot withstand water dripping on them."

it goes on to say that if condensation drips on the eggs pat them dry with a paper towel and as long as it only happens occasionally (like when you open the lid) they can survive.

Some one else said that condensation comes from differing air temps and that is correct. The air out side of the egg container is cooler than the air inside.

I would vent the egg container so that the air in the incubator and the air in th egg container stay close to the same temp.

Just keep an eye on the humidity.

Good Luck!

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Originally Posted by wilomn

Well, given that there is such a long window of time in which they lay, and the variable of weather, I would guess that a good many eggs get rained on.

Plus, given the fact that many other pythons, granted from more humid areas but genetically close to ball pythons, have their eggs rained on regularly with no ill effects, personal experience with balls and extrapolation from other species, a bit of water isn't going to hurt the eggs any.

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Oh my - I'm hoping your not serious...Wet eggs = Dead eggs...
BT

Im serious here people I am going to try this.

Im going to get a bowl as my lid for my egg container. So when the condensations does form, it gently rolls down the side, back into the substrate from wence it came.

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Originally Posted by BT41042

Oh my - I'm hoping your not serious...Wet eggs = Dead eggs...
BT

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Darn it. All those babies I hatched, with water dripping on the eggs throughout incubation, didn't get the note from the barkers.

I'll be sure to tell any subsequent eggs I try to hatch that if they get water dripped on them they must die.

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Originally Posted by wilomn

Well, given that there is such a long window of time in which they lay, and the variable of weather, I would guess that a good many eggs get rained on.

Plus, given the fact that many other pythons, granted from more humid areas but genetically close to ball pythons, have their eggs rained on regularly with no ill effects, personal experience with balls and extrapolation from other species, a bit of water isn't going to hurt the eggs any.

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Originally Posted by wilomn

Darn it. All those babies I hatched, with water dripping on the eggs throughout incubation, didn't get the note from the barkers.

I'll be sure to tell any subsequent eggs I try to hatch that if they get water dripped on them they must die.

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I'm curious as to what Python eggs you have hatched Wes...Exactly what Python species are referring to when you say their eggs get rained on? Look at the thread in the General Python forum about the Woma eggs - Fella lost 9 eggs in 3 days...Why? I know why - To wet...I'm sure the Barkers are clueless about hatching Python eggs - How many you think they have hatched out over the years? 1000, 5000, 10000?...LOL...Keep giving out bad advice - Very noble of you I must say...
BT

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Originally Posted by BT41042

I'm curious as to what Python eggs you have hatched Wes...Exactly what Python species are referring to when you say their eggs get rained on? Look at the thread in the General Python forum about the Woma eggs - Fella lost 9 eggs in 3 days...Why? I know why - To wet...I'm sure the Barkers are clueless about hatching Python eggs - How many you think they have hatched out over the years? 1000, 5000, 10000?...LOL...Keep giving out bad advice - Very noble of you I must say...
BT

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I've only bred and hatched ball and burmese.

Did you know that Womas were from a MUCH dryer climate than either of the two that I've worked with personally? Have you seen me say ONE word about woma eggs?

Before you tell me my advice, which I have yet to give, having only stated what I know from my own personal experience, is bad, perhaps you should pull your head out of that dark place you keep it and take a look around. While I have not hatched anywhere near the numbers they have, I have hatched enough to tell you that your narrow mindedness is disappointing. Not surprising mind you, there are many sheep, just disappointing.

Just because the barkers say a thing does not mean that is the ONLY way a thing may be done.

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Originally Posted by wilomn

I've only bred and hatched ball and burmese.

Did you know that Womas were from a MUCH dryer climate than either of the two that I've worked with personally? Have you seen me say ONE word about woma eggs?

Before you tell me my advice, which I have yet to give, having only stated what I know from my own personal experience, is bad, perhaps you should pull your head out of that dark place you keep it and take a look around. While I have not hatched anywhere near the numbers they have, I have hatched enough to tell you that your narrow mindedness is disappointing. Not surprising mind you, there are many sheep, just disappointing.

Just because the barkers say a thing does not mean that is the ONLY way a thing may be done.

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Typical Wes...LOL...Yep - I'll say it again - Your advice sucks...Funny thing is - Everybody who contributed to this thread all said the same thing but you...IMO - I'd listen to the Barkers and take their advice before I gave your babble a second thought...For the record - I live to dissapoint you - Nothing makes my day more complete...I'll give you the last word - No point in arguing with the all might Wes Pollack - To much for my little narrow mind to handle...Do us all a favor and go back to Fauna...Which species of Pythons did you say got their eggs rained on...LOL...It's like a bad joke...
BT

Ok fellas...can we agree to disagree and keep the negative bickering out of it? Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Patrick Long

Im serious here people I am going to try this.

Im going to get a bowl as my lid for my egg container. So when the condensations does form, it gently rolls down the side, back into the substrate from wence it came.

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Lol, I love the use of wence. Somehow your post reminded me of Gandalf sitting in the egg container looking up at the drops of condensation and saying'

"You....shall not.....pass!!!!!"

JonV