Serious Opinions(ok, and maybe some not so serious)

I get really confused when I look at it... I don't understand what that shape is, and the boa looks just kind of thrown on there... not real sure about the font either. I think it needs to be revised... Trial and error; don't give up!

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Originally Posted by Patrick Long

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Hmm, I like the positioning of the boa and skink, but the background (is it broken glass?) does throw the whole image off a bit, and the font is just a teeny bit too flashy. Don't forget, simplicity can still be creative;) On another note, its still WAY better than anything I could come up with, I'm not very original.. Keep at it!

I would change name to PL exotics (patrick long exotics) I would also change up the banner a little bit. Change the font and blend or soften edges a little bit more. Good luck man. So far soo good.

meh, not that into it. Sorry i took WAY too much graphic design in college so i'm super picky about logos...

the broken effect looks too fake and the reptiles are so real. I'd focus on one or the other, throw out the herps or the glass. I personally would make two versions, a skink version and a snake version and make the herps the focus. I like the font, but not the skewed angle. With logos the simpler and more straightforward it is, the more professional it looks. Is P&L a business or a hobby? If both, what do you wish to convey more, that you are fun or responsible?

I'd go with a much simpler logo and color scheme. Maybe that would work better if the animals were in gray tones, you chose a different font that was a bit cleaner, and I'd ditch the torn look, kinda cheesy IMO.

I will also have to agree to just call it PL Exotics, unless of course you two are sharing the workload of the "business" or she'll be dealing with customers. If you're the frontman, go with PL not P&L.

Good start bro. You'll get it.

Cool. My first question is what will your business be? A store front pet shop? Just shows? Out of your closet shipping herps a few at a time? That will determine what kind of logo I would create. Not so much what is your business now, but where do you want to be?

I like it - but I agree that the reptiles look too real and the rest is gray-tones, etc. The font is interesting, but a little too "tough guy, hard rock" for me. Maybe a little less frayed and not so red?

Also, what's up with the broken diagonal biz? I was confused a little, too.

That all being said, I did like it. And I agree with Missi, better than I could come up with! Good luck!

thanx yall for the crits. For the record its not glass, I actually did not inted for it to "be" anything. It is simply a brush stroke copied.

As far as positioning reptiles for photo ops......lets just say, I had to work with what I got :D.

And its not really going to be a "business" I have, and do plan on selling a few animals here and there, but nothing close to being called a "business".



I really do appreciate all the feedback. I wish I could pay some of yall to do somethin crazy for me!

I agree strongly with what some people have said so far...

McKinsey (Starmom) said you would know when you've got it right.

Also, if it is your business/hobby/thing, then it should be PL, not P&L. If it is to be shared with your gf, then...well... going into business with a gf is not recommended. Even though you say it won't really be a business, you are still going to the trouble of making up a logo, so it isn't nothing.

As far as the actual logo itself, I'm probably revealing way too much of how much I don't know about blue-tongued skinks, but... my first reaction on seeing it was "I had no idea they looked like they have blue goo dripping out of their mouths."

The boa might look really cool if you eliminate its tail so it looks like it is hanging over the sign. Although the coolest part of boas is their tail, so there is a drawback there too.

I think half of the problem with the font is the "copyright" watermark behind it. Makes an already busy font hard to read. So once you eliminate that it might be much better. Also, I don't remember if someone said this, but the pics of the animals stand out so much and the font looks so flat. If there was a little bit of a 3D effect you could do on the font it might balance things.