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New spider wobbles ALOT!

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  • 03-30-2008, 04:17 PM
    pythontricker
    Re: New spider wobbles ALOT!
    no he just said it was a normal spider.
  • 03-30-2008, 04:32 PM
    ADEE
    Re: New spider wobbles ALOT!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pythontricker View Post
    no he just said it was a normal spider.

    I personally would take that up with the breeder. Advise him of the severity and ask if perhaps they can send you an animal that doesnt have that issue. Most of us dont invest the money we do in animals that can be considered "Defective" ... i know its typical and normal but I personally would be pretty upset, especially if it wasnt disclosed. If you have a camcorder or camera that has video capability I would take some video of the animal and send it to the breeder. but thats my 0.02
  • 03-30-2008, 04:38 PM
    belvis
    Re: New spider wobbles ALOT!
    I got out of Spiders for these reasons. I have seen some that would have to strike many many times in order to eat. Some with crooked necks. Some that just sat there and spun in circles. They are nice animals though, make sure you buy from a Good breeder.
  • 03-30-2008, 04:47 PM
    Tosha_Mc
    Re: New spider wobbles ALOT!
    I'm sorry - but you knew the wobble existed - IMO - you should have inquired with the breeder before hand as to whether or not the one you wanted to purchased wobbled and to what extent - it's called doing your homework. You can contact the breeder and they might work with you - but it really is as much your fault for not asking as it is theirs for not disclosing - however most breeders naturally assume that you know what you're doing and if it's an issue for you - you'll ask. If you did make it clear to the breeder that you wanted a nonwobbler then I retract the statement.


    Nextly - the amount of wobble isn't an inheritable trait - non wobblers produce wobblers and vice versa.


    Good luck.
  • 03-30-2008, 05:15 PM
    Entropy
    Re: New spider wobbles ALOT!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pythontricker View Post
    I'm getting a spider from Jons jungle in a few days and I'm hoping that he wobbles.


    In the other spider thread you expressed that you hoped the spider you got was a wobbler. And now this bothers you? I personally wouldn't breed or buy an animal that shows wobbling to the degree described here.
  • 03-30-2008, 06:00 PM
    SPJ
    Re: New spider wobbles ALOT!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tosha_Mc View Post
    I'm sorry - but you knew the wobble existed - IMO - you should have inquired with the breeder before hand as to whether or not the one you wanted to purchased wobbled and to what extent - it's called doing your homework. You can contact the breeder and they might work with you - but it really is as much your fault for not asking as it is theirs for not disclosing - however most breeders naturally assume that you know what you're doing and if it's an issue for you - you'll ask. If you did make it clear to the breeder that you wanted a nonwobbler then I retract the statement.
    Good luck.

    Tosha is correct. When buying a spider the FIRST thing you should ask is if it displays any wobble. If the the breeder says no and when it arrives it does wobble, then you have a case of misrepresentation but in this case, I don't think there is much you can do except keep it as a pet.
  • 03-30-2008, 06:04 PM
    JoshJP7
    Re: New spider wobbles ALOT!
    The wobble is a known genetic trait... Its probably a fair statement that all spiders wobble to some degree. Some do it more than others but if it has no impact on the animals health whats the big deal? My girl wobbles but I still plan on breeding her.
  • 03-30-2008, 06:10 PM
    SPJ
    Re: New spider wobbles ALOT!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JoshJP7 View Post
    The wobble is a known genetic trait... Its probably a fair statement that all spiders wobble to some degree. Some do it more than others but if it has no impact on the animals health whats the big deal? My girl wobbles but I still plan on breeding her.

    Ask Corey Woods what the big deal is.
    He got a spider in for a breeding arrangement a few years back that he was told was a great spider and ready to breed. The thing couldn't move much less breed. It sat in the corner of the tub with it's head and body distorted.
    I don't agree with breeding spiders that have a signifigant, noticeable wobble. Granted wobblers can appear in a clutch from non-wobblers but why not use the best animals for breeders and leave the really bad wobblers out of the gene pool?
  • 03-30-2008, 06:29 PM
    JoshJP7
    Re: New spider wobbles ALOT!
    Its a personal decision as to whether or not you breed your wobbling spider. I said mine wobbles but its not like she sits there all crazy crooked neck and what not... At times she gets excited and goes a lil crazy but it stops. If his is doing it "all the time" which neither you or I can tell what he means by that then no he shouldnt breed it. I would say 85% of the time I see my spider out and about shes fine... the other 15% shes going a little crazy and does the upside down head swirling thing. To me I say its typical based on what Ive heard other peoples spiders do so I'm obv gonna breed her. If I could sit and watch his snake for a couple hours at night I might say he shouldnt breed him. Lets also remember he just got the snake... give it some time and keep your eye on it.
  • 03-30-2008, 06:36 PM
    Holbeird
    Re: New spider wobbles ALOT!
    I haven't made up my mind on the wobbling issue. Everyone says not to breed spiders that wobble, but I know someone who has a corkscrewing spider that eats well, sheds well, and is a breeding machine. Not only that, over the few 3 years he's had him, he has sired over 50 babies and according to my friend, of those 50+ he's only had 3 with the significant wobble. He placed 1 of them in a home with a friend where it would never be bred and he's using the other two to breed back to the father who wobbles to test his theory on how that gene is passed.
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