wobbles

I saw mine wobble for the first time last night while I was waiting for him to eat. He just flopped his head back.. lol, it was funny looking. Other than that time, he seems to be ok. His tongue seems to come out further than Vincent's though.

My spider wobbled when I first got her, but she hasn't done it in a while.

Why is it bad, exactly?
Does it change their behavior in any other way (make them more aggressive or anything)? Do spiders have about the same lifespan as other BPs?
I'm just curious because I like them a lot, and kind of think the wobbling could be cute if it's not harmful in any way.

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Originally Posted by soy.lor.n

Why is it bad, exactly?
Does it change their behavior in any other way (make them more aggressive or anything)? Do spiders have about the same lifespan as other BPs?
I'm just curious because I like them a lot, and kind of think the wobbling could be cute if it's not harmful in any way.

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I wouldn't worry about it too much. It could be a genetic trait just as "Star Gazing" could be. This is one of the reasons I believe breeders need to keep more accurate breeding records and follow up with owners a little more. Some of these things may not be witnessed at the breeder level or they may be, but since people really are not sure if it is genetic or not only good record keeping can prove it or someone breeding a snake that does it with another snake that does it and witnessing the trait getting stronger! Lucky for us none of our snakes have shown either of these behaviors, but our bumblebee is always the first to wake up and come out every evening and is the most prone to coming out during the day. I've heard that is a trait of the spider gene in her! If this is a trait that can be passed on I wonder what other traits can be passed on? Tracy Barker has told us that their line of Axanthic (VPI) have good records for laying larger clutches than normal! So many traits in ball Pythons have not even been really studied yet that a world of possibilities exist for a ball python keeper or breeder to do all kinds of studies and possibly become known in the community for the results of those studies if the actions taken and results our well documented following good Scientific research practices.

i wanted to breed from him when hes older, what do you think.

if you want to breed from him then do so...you will have no trouble getting rid of the babies.....if you do then bring them round to me ill have them off you.

ive seen a spider spin so bad that it whacked its head on the tub it was in...kinda cartoon-like but it doesnt bother them so why let it bother you.

I'm getting a spider from Jons jungle in a few days and I'm hoping that he wobbles.

I don't think it's so amusing, and it's akin to a mentally disabled person with no motor control. Not to say these pythons are retarded or any less valuable than other BP's, just that the lack of motor control could be attributed to certain other mysteries, like the non-existent homozygous spider.

I'm not incredibly offended by wobbling but to hope an animal wobbles? That just seems irresponsible to me.

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Originally Posted by veedubz

ive seen a spider spin so bad that it whacked its head on the tub it was in...kinda cartoon-like but it doesnt bother them so why let it bother you.

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How do you know it does not bother them? Just because a snake eats and breeds does not mean the spinning is not detrimental.