Help!!!! Jas, Tim, Adam, Bt, Larry, Somebody

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Originally Posted by muddoc

Ed,
Sometimes they do look pretty big when they are building, however, my guess would be ovulation. What I would do, is watch her close, and look for her shed in about 10 days. As Becky said, she will also probably migrate to the hot side (if she hasn't already). I know you said you palpate horribly, but after she sheds, try again, as the eggs are alot bigger than the follicles (the problem is that eggs are softer than follicles), so this may cause you to miss them as well.

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Thanks I'll just keep an eye one her and see is she sheds of course sometimes they don't do that either ..LOL Thanks bro

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Side note: let this be a lesson that not all Ball Pythons have been to Mark Mandic's website, and they do not know all of the signs that they are supposed to give you. They don't always give you every sign, and sometimes they give you none.

Hope that helps,

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LOL that was my thought..Where the text book examples that mark gives dang it.!

I can't palpate without using a paper towel, or the bottom of my t-shirt that I'm wearing - they don't go as smoothly through my hands unless I do it that way. It's like my fingers skip over their skin when I try to go it bare-handed. The papertowel or t-shirt reduces friction and makes any follicles easier to feel for me.

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Originally Posted by rabernet

I can't palpate without using a paper towel, or the bottom of my t-shirt that I'm wearing - they don't go as smoothly through my hands unless I do it that way. It's like my fingers skip over their skin when I try to go it bare-handed.

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I'm to busy avoiding teeth. LOL

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

I'm to busy avoiding teeth. LOL

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There's that! :P

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

No every little bit helps man. to tell you the true I suck at palping. I have been breeding her since Jan but didn't see my first lock with her till like first of Feb. she has only had about 4-5 good locks since then now I see this so I am thinking this is just building but the way she was laying in the first pic I swore OV.

Thanks BT



I palp with my thumb on her back and my forefinger on middle finger on her belly I also close my eyes helps me feel (old mechanics trick for feeling something you can't see) I'll try the paper towel trick and see if I can get a good feel on her

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I tell Frog man - Once you think you have them figured out they throw you a curve ball...I have girls that I have been breeding since Nov. and can only feel little bitty follicles...I have girls that I have only breed 3 - 4 times and their super close to ovulation...Makes a lot of sense huh? Just keep a eye on her and pay attention to were she spends the majority of her time - Cold side or hot side...When in doubt - Keep pairing her up...I palpate just like you except I don't close my eyes - When the follicles are small - I do squeeze pretty hard though...:gj:
BT

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

I mean I could just suck at palping and be missing them.

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My freind i think this is what happened :P.It happens ;)

I vote for building...Ive always noticed a change in the way the stomach feels after the ovulation as its more marshmellow like...
Good Luck.. Id put the male in as well.

Nice ovy! I see 5 eggs in there!!

Ovulation or building humm to me it looks ov all the way but I do know that some have incredible swelling while building.

Instead of worrying about if it's one or the other just follow her behavior from here on out. In the next few days if you see her bowl wrapping and laying cold then she didn't ovulate. If she's glued to the heat in a nice tight coil and shed 10-15days later bingo it's hammer time baby.

Either way I'd keep breeding her and practicing my palpating :)

ps My name shouldn't be on the title of this thread. That being said I don't mind sharing my vast months of experience.lol

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

I also close my eyesl

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Do you also light candles and put on some soft music?:banana: