Spied Pics???

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Originally Posted by BallNation

The op was right the first time. I talked to Steve last year at Daytona about the spied and you do get all spieds.

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What?!?!? That makes no sense genetically! If that's so, why was Steve selling Spiders Het Pied and Spiders 66% Poss Het Pied last year? If what you're saying is right, there'd be no such thing as a Spider Het Pied (which makes no sense). Please explain!

Even if you breed a Spied to a Pied, you'd still get 50% Spieds and 50% Pieds, not all Spieds!!

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Originally Posted by LGL

What?!?!? That makes no sense genetically! If that's so, why was Steve selling Spiders Het Pied and Spiders 66% Poss Het Pied last year? If what you're saying is right, there'd be no such thing as a Spider Het Pied (which makes no sense). Please explain!

Even if you breed a Spied to a Pied, you'd still get 50% Spieds and 50% Pieds, not all Spieds!!

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What also doesn't make since is that the spied comes out 99% white every time, so i could see that happening.

The Bee spied is something else as well, the way its mouth is white.

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Originally Posted by LGL

What?!?!? That makes no sense genetically! If that's so, why was Steve selling Spiders Het Pied and Spiders 66% Poss Het Pied last year? If what you're saying is right, there'd be no such thing as a Spider Het Pied (which makes no sense). Please explain!

Even if you breed a Spied to a Pied, you'd still get 50% Spieds and 50% Pieds, not all Spieds!!

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Correct. The only way to hatch all spieds (without a huge amount of luck) is to breed a homozygous spider piebald to a piebald, and no one even knows at this point whether a homozygous spider is even possible to produce. A spied x pied would get you half pieds and half spieds. A spied x spied would increase your chances, but if you have a pair of spieds, you probably have a regular pied to breed to the spied, so that seems like a waste of a breeding season for a perfectly good female spied.

This would throw genetics out the window... more in depth than all the BEL lines and the infamous "hidden/dilute gene" for the Original Platinum. Someone's gotta be mistaken.