thoughts on starting breeding

eternalfrost trying to find a breeding loan with a normal male will be pretty hard unless you have a friend with a single female that is willing. youll be better off with your own female(and dont forget a seperate enclosure for her). the least expensive morph right now is probably the pastel and you can get one for a couple hundred bucks. she would need to be of proper size and age before you try to breed her so while you are raising her up it would be best to do as much research as you can to see what its going to take to go through with it, incubate eggs, and care for the hatchlings. its not just heat lamps and hatchlings, you need time, money and knowledge to successfully get babies.

for example combating males may make them even harder to breed so its best to get research from many different sources so that you can make the best decisions for your situation.

Eternal my thoughts are this...breeding balls is fun, thats why i do and I imagine that's why most do it. For whatever reason alot of people like to make it seem like a job. Its not like bearded dragons where you will be saddled with a ton of babies and nothing to do with them. If you want to try it, try it! Just make sure you're taking care of your animals. Alot of the stuff you need can be built affordably or bought used as well. If you get a female or two by the time they're raised to 1500 grams you will know what it takes to care for ball pythons, you will know if you want 10-16 more, if you can afford it then do it. My guess is you'll get the bug like most of us and go from there. It doesn't mean you have to become one of the people who build enormous businesses around them and exploit the species. Make a couple babies and have fun! People forget that in this industry. Just keep your normal male...you'll be happy about it later. He's the one that started it all.....

thanks for the input guys. good old punnet squares haha caps=dominant small=recessive

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is there any list of morphs with pics and wich are dominant, recessive, and codominant?

I love the NERD site if you cant tell...it gives really good descriptions....click here http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...=543&Itemid=76

Its their new site...really good!

I would get a female mojave or pastel. Once you raise her up you can breed her to your male and hatch out a few more co-doms. Then you raise up one of the males and breed him back to your female and you can hatch out a super pastel or a blue eyed leucistic.

my 7 year old normal male is with a female pastel as i type. my pastel male just isn't getting it done and i dont want to waste a season.

Can I ask why you'd want to breed? In my opinion BPs are kind of like the Pit Bulls of the snake world. Everyone and their mother is breeding them and they're overpopulated. Not that other reptiles aren't overpopulated, but BPs are especially overpopulated.

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Originally Posted by bsd13

Can I ask why you'd want to breed? In my opinion BPs are kind of like the Pit Bulls of the snake world. Everyone and their mother is breeding them and they're overpopulated. Not that other reptiles aren't overpopulated, but BPs are especially overpopulated.

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I have to disagree. There aren't rescues specifically for ball pythons, nor are there a ton of unwanted ball pythons sitting in animal rescues. There is a huge demand for ball pythons, and the ones that are unwanted are usually picked up pretty quickly. A ton of people are breeding them, but the demand is there and growing with the supply.

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Originally Posted by PythonWallace

I have to disagree. There aren't rescues specifically for ball pythons, nor are there a ton of unwanted ball pythons sitting in animal rescues. There is a huge demand for ball pythons, and the ones that are unwanted are usually picked up pretty quickly. A ton of people are breeding them, but the demand is there and growing with the supply.

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I'll just point you back to Pit Bulls (and Rotties, and Dobs) huge demand, but at some point the demand is met and then the rest are trash.

Not saying you shouldn't breed just asking why breed with so many out there?

Ball pythons aren't dogs. If the demand ever drops that low, there are probably hundreds of people on this site alone who would take a few unwanted healthy snakes. I would. Even if you have a good amount of land, dogs are too costly to have more than a couple. Most dog enthusiasts have 1-5 dogs. Very few have more than 10. It's not uncommon for a ball python enthusiast to have 20-100+ snakes, and most are always open to take on a healthy rescue or three. It's apples and oranges.