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  • 01-30-2008, 12:18 AM
    Suzy
    Re: New to snakes, new-ish to the board. I've got questions! :)
    Would you use those with the sliding screens, or any screen in general?
    I will mess around with the humidity first, and if it's too low, i'll keep that in mind. I don't want to put my future snake through any bad sheds, so i'll definitely keep some cardboard/foil and duct tape around. :) is one better than the other, or do they both pretty much do the same thing?
    Thank you very much for your help. I appreciate it. :)

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    Originally Posted by Brett89 View Post
    Screen clips you can get at almost any pet store that carries reptiles. They just clip to both sides, they even have some with locks on them. Also with a screen top you might want to duct tape some cardboard over at least half of the screen to help keep your humididty up. When i first got into snakes a few years ago i struggled with bad sheds until i had an experienced person tell me to to cover half of the screen.

  • 01-30-2008, 12:23 AM
    Suzy
    Re: New to snakes, new-ish to the board. I've got questions! :)
    It's funny, because I had sent another person an e-mail before I got any responses on here, and he offered me an adult at $150. I told him i'd prefer a hatchling/yearling, and he sent me 3 responses to that within a span of about 5 minutes. The first one, he told me that a buyer just backed out on him, so he has a yearling. The second, he asked me if I needed a cage, and the third he told me that he had a 55 gallon as well as the yearling and all the accessories and that he'd sell them all for $150. I told him thanks, but no thanks. It almost seemed like a used car salesman trying to pressure me into buying it. I don't know if that's how he operates or what. He's apparently a breeder and has been for 10 years, but as far as i've seen most breeders have their own websites and don't operate out of Craigslist. He told me that his prices were much cheaper than any pet store, but that's one place i'll never buy a snake from. :)
    I know that there's a bi-monthly reptile show here in Kansas City, and the next one is on March 9th, so i'll go then and take a look around. (I keep telling myself, if I want one bad enough, I can wait another month and change.) I'd rather have my finances in order before I go splurging on a new critter, and by then, I will. :)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ChrisBowsman View Post
    I'm not an expert by any means, but I wanted to echo the statement about Craigslist. I'm fairly new to BPs, and was advised to go with a breeder. I checked with a few, and got a price of under $100, included shipping, for a nice looking baby ball. Most of the craigslist ads for snakes that I've seen are asking fairly close to that.

  • 01-30-2008, 12:30 AM
    kc261
    Re: New to snakes, new-ish to the board. I've got questions! :)
    A reptile show can be a great place to get your new pet! We got ours, a normal female, for $20 at a show last fall. Try to get a list of vendors ahead of time so you can determine who are the good guys to buy from!

    I am using a 20L tank, because we like the idea of a visual display. As it turns out, during the winter we need to insulate all 4 sides, so for now it is a display of cardboard! But it was nice in the fall and will be nice again once the weather warms up again. Or we could just up the heat in the whole house but it isn't worth it. I am using 2 UTHs, a smaller one on the cool side. You can use a CHE or light, but those will both eat up the humidity.

    The 10 gallon tank you mention would be great for a hatchling. Another reason to get a snake from a breeder!

    You shouldn't have to worry about burning your snake with a UTH that is properly controlled by a t-stat.
  • 01-30-2008, 12:47 AM
    Suzy
    Re: New to snakes, new-ish to the board. I've got questions! :)
    That's what I figured, too. I don't know what the reptile show here in KC is like, but i'll post about that here in a few minutes, as well as a little bit of annoyance with somebody that keeps hounding me. :)
    That's pretty much all I want is a normal hatchling/yearling. i'm not looking for anything fancy or extravagant. This is my first, and while I may want to breed later on, if that happens, i'll just make sure that I get some good breeding stock later on down the road. :)
    There is a list of vendors on the website. I've looked at their websites, but most of them don't have anything available due to it not being breeding season yet.
    LOL - well at least you know there's something beautiful behind the cardboard. :) Okay, that makes sense. I've heard that about the lights, but never about the CHEs. That's good to know. Thank you. :)
    Yeah, i've got several 10 gallon aquariums laying around. I've heard that most snakes are skittish and nervous if they're in large enclosures, so I figured that it wouldn't be a bad thing to have an extra 10 gallon laying around just in case I do get a hatchling. Come to think about it, I might have a 20 laying around. I'm not 100% sure about that. lol - i'm scatterbrained right now.
    Ok, that's good to hear. :) I'll be sure to get a thermostat. Is there a brand in particular you'd recommend? I've looked around, and have a list of snake supplies in word with prices and websites, but if there's a brand that's recommended that would be less likely to go on the fritz, i'm all ears. :) (or should I say eyes? lol)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kc261 View Post
    A reptile show can be a great place to get your new pet! We got ours, a normal female, for $20 at a show last fall. Try to get a list of vendors ahead of time so you can determine who are the good guys to buy from!

    I am using a 20L tank, because we like the idea of a visual display. As it turns out, during the winter we need to insulate all 4 sides, so for now it is a display of cardboard! But it was nice in the fall and will be nice again once the weather warms up again. Or we could just up the heat in the whole house but it isn't worth it. I am using 2 UTHs, a smaller one on the cool side. You can use a CHE or light, but those will both eat up the humidity.

    The 10 gallon tank you mention would be great for a hatchling. Another reason to get a snake from a breeder!

    You shouldn't have to worry about burning your snake with a UTH that is properly controlled by a t-stat.

  • 01-30-2008, 12:54 AM
    Brett89
    Re: New to snakes, new-ish to the board. I've got questions! :)
    I go to the Kansas City show every time they have so if you would like some help finding a responsible breeder i could point you in the right way. I hope to pic up a jungle RTB or a Anery RTB. The best thing to do is cut cardboard to fit snugly around the screen and then duct tape till theres not really any extra air leaks except for where the card board ends on the other half of the screen. I just had the sliding screens.
  • 01-30-2008, 03:57 AM
    Suzy
    Re: New to snakes, new-ish to the board. I've got questions! :)
    Great! I am interested in finding a good breeder in the area. All I want is a CBB normal BP (Or a pastel if I can find one reasonably priced) - preferably eating f/t, and a young-ish snake. I know it's kind of hard to find a hatchling this time of year (it's usually in the spring/summer time, right?) but a yearling would even be ok with me. Something around the 1' - 2' range. Nothing that's full grown just yet. :) I'm almost 100% sure that i'll be there. There aren't any sporting events that'll interrupt my wanting to go.
    Okay, that works for me. I don't know if most of these screens I find online are sliding or not. I imagine so, since there aren't any noticible doors/hatches/whatever on them.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Brett89 View Post
    I go to the Kansas City show every time they have so if you would like some help finding a responsible breeder i could point you in the right way. I hope to pic up a jungle RTB or a Anery RTB. The best thing to do is cut cardboard to fit snugly around the screen and then duct tape till theres not really any extra air leaks except for where the card board ends on the other half of the screen. I just had the sliding screens.

  • 01-30-2008, 04:05 AM
    kc261
    Re: New to snakes, new-ish to the board. I've got questions! :)
    From what I've seen on this forum, hatching is almost a year round occurrence. Someone posted a 1st hatchling of the year thread a few days ago. Some breeders get started earlier than others, some snakes take longer before they eventually lay eggs. But definitely there will be lots more hatching going on in the summer.
  • 01-30-2008, 01:08 PM
    Suzy
    Re: New to snakes, new-ish to the board. I've got questions! :)
    Oh, ok I didn't know that. :) Thank you for letting me know! lol - I guess since they're not out in the wild, then people can control their environment to think it's earlier/later than the snake thinks. I know that there's the whole brumation thing to go through, too, but I always thought it was at a particular time of the year.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kc261 View Post
    From what I've seen on this forum, hatching is almost a year round occurrence. Someone posted a 1st hatchling of the year thread a few days ago. Some breeders get started earlier than others, some snakes take longer before they eventually lay eggs. But definitely there will be lots more hatching going on in the summer.

  • 01-30-2008, 01:35 PM
    kc261
    Re: New to snakes, new-ish to the board. I've got questions! :)
    BPs don't actually brumate. That's only for snakes native to areas that have a colder winter than they do in Africa.

    I've read about some BP breeders "cooling" their snakes, but I'm starting to get really out of the areas that I feel I know enough to talk about.
  • 01-30-2008, 02:35 PM
    Brett89
    Re: New to snakes, new-ish to the board. I've got questions! :)
    Someone there will have something that is close enough to a hatchling. Good breeders usually like to get 4 or 5 meals in their bps to make sure they're eating and growing right so most that you'll find will usually be at least 2 or 3 months old. Still small enough to get used to, but big enough and old enough to know there aren't any noticable problems with the snake.
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