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"Zucker" rats

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  • 01-13-2008, 03:48 AM
    wilomn
    Re: "Zucker" rats
    Another thing people forget or just don't know is that large meals like those rats, when digested at a high temperature, can actually rot before they begin to digest.

    If they rot first bacteria causes bloat. Imagine one balloon, the rat, inside another balloon, the snake. Inflate the inner balloon until it pops with in the outer balloon and you have the right image.

    This bloating can also cause regurgitation and if that occurs, with the digestive process in full swing, the stomache acid that is expelled is in full digest mode and more volitile than it would be a few days later.

    It's an interesting process, the rotting before digesting. WIth one or two animals being fed there is enough room for the snake to stretch and accomodate the expanding meal but with four going, or even just a too large meal in general, regurgitation is likely.
  • 01-13-2008, 09:09 AM
    frankykeno
    Re: "Zucker" rats
    I understand the need to study Zucker rats in relation to leptin receptor function in order to better understand human obesity or diabetes. To knowingly breed one as a food source, I just don't get. You would be feeding a morbidly obese, basically unwell creature to your snake. I don't see the point of that.
  • 01-13-2008, 01:36 PM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: "Zucker" rats
    Wow, that's a very good point Will.

    The zucker gene as I understand it, is recessive. There may be other ways to get the fatty zucker, but that is the only way I know of. It's really sad to see those rats so large, but I understand the lab use of them.
  • 12-16-2008, 02:28 PM
    NorCalPythons
    Re: "Zucker" rats
    found a place that sells them, but thay are not cheap
    http://www.criver.com/SiteCollection...ucker_Rats.pdf
  • 12-16-2008, 02:43 PM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: "Zucker" rats
    Again, why would someone want to breed for zucker rats when not for lab use? No one seems to understand that they are ALL fat, don't breed very well because of their size, have pain just walking and can't control their eating. It's a terrible thing to try and breed for imo.
  • 12-16-2008, 03:43 PM
    MDB
    Re: "Zucker" rats
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Beardedragon View Post
    [url]http://www.nyas.org/ebriefreps/ebrief/000266/images/newgard1.jpg[/url
    FAT

    my godd he is fatt, lol
  • 12-16-2008, 08:54 PM
    dr del
    Re: "Zucker" rats
    Hi,

    And remember that poor burmese that regurged - they blamed the amount of fat on the prey animal for the emulsion effect that caused so much of the damage.

    I Live in a country that deep fries snickers bars and serves them with french fries - I don't eat them and will never feed any snake of mine one of these rats.:colbert:


    dr del
  • 12-17-2008, 12:32 PM
    Dragnbaron
    Re: "Zucker" rats
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    I Live in a country that deep fries snickers bars and serves them with french fries

    Surprisingly, i would try that, just once. Whoever thought of that mix must have really been in a weird mood... or in college... maybe pregnant?
  • 12-22-2008, 07:24 AM
    Lateralus_Love
    Re: "Zucker" rats
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Beardedragon View Post

    that pictures really sad to me :tears:
  • 01-09-2009, 01:56 AM
    SnM_Man
    Re: "Zucker" rats
    it'd be like feeding ur snake nothin but double big macs !!!... he'd end up like fat albert!!!
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