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  • 01-04-2008, 11:52 AM
    RandyRemington
    Re: Help clear up my morph/breeding ?'s
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shizzybrane View Post
    Pastel x Pastel = Super Pastel? Super Pastel x Spider = Killer Bee?

    By "x" do you meen a breeding? That's how I use it and “+” for a combination of mutations in a single snake.

    So pastel x pastel does produce eggs that each have a 25% chance of getting the pastel gene from both parents (each parent is heterozygous pastel so has a 50/50 chance as to which version they pass for a combined 25% chance of both passing pastel). With a good sized clutch your odds are great of producing a super pastel from breeding a pair of pastels but not guaranteed as all the eggs could each hit their separate 75% chance of not being super pastel (the more eggs the less likely this is).

    Now killer bee is a little more complicated. A killer bee is the combination of super pastel + spider but in order to produce one you need the pastel mutation on both sides. Each parent can only give one copy of a given gene so even if one parent is a super pastel and has two copies of the pastel mutation it can only give one of them to any offspring. In order for the baby to be a super pastel it has to get the pastel mutation from the other parent too. So just looking at the pastel part of the equation, both parents of a killer bee must be at least pastel. Having one or both parent super pastel just increases the odds.

    The killer bee only has one copy of the spider mutation so it's only required that one of its parents have that mutation. So one way you could make a killer bee would be bumblebee X pastel. Each egg in such a clutch would have a 1 in 8 chance of getting all the right mutant gene versions to be a killer bee. Even breeding killer bee X super pastel each egg would only have a 1 in 2 chance of being killer bee so without a homozygous spider proven, killer bee may stay a somewhat difficult morph to produce, at least one you aren't going to regularly pump out 8 in a clutch. Same thing with pinstripe combos unless/until a homozygous pinstripe is produced.
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