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I would go to Adam because he is a very reputible breeder and I know that I would be getting a healthy bp.

One thing is for certain about Adam and that is he is all about his animals.

everything else is just background noise.


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I would contact Adam and talk. Because I've already been a customer of Adam's, I know first hand that he'll take care of me and that his animals will be healthy, thriving and good looking! I also know that Adam will be there after the sale. Not just for the next few weeks, next couple of months - but for years to come. Having Adam's number on speed dial - and him encouraging you to, makes him number one in my book!

I wasnt saying im going to buy from any of the people I listed, purchasing a morph would be for my own collection (For lack of better words haha) not just breeding purposes. my husband and i were having a debate who someone would buy from first.. the less expensive just as nice "no name" snake or that of an animal much higher price because it came from "name brand"

Nightlad, I understand where your coming from, and agree with you almost to a "t" I would LOVE to someday have an animal from Adam but know financially it most likely wont happen, so buying from say "Mark" is more likely.. i wouldnt want to nessesarily go with "Jack" just because of the person not being able to replace the animal should something go wrong, doesnt have a rep to worry about upholding, exc.

As a side note, sorry Adam to have used you specifically but I admire your snakes and think you are a wonderful person (from what ive learned here) I knew people would recognise your name and didnt want to pick someone to compare you to which is why i picked "mark and jack"..was definetly done as a compliment :gj:

Id pick the best looking snake... Prices dont really mean much to me if the snake looks like poopy caca... Id request pics from each and then decide which one you like the most then go from there. No sense of payin 2k for a snake your not going to enjoy looking at for 20yrs.

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Originally Posted by AshleyB

I would LOVE to someday have an animal from Adam but know financially it most likely wont happen

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You won't know unless you actually called Adam. I think you'd be pleasantly surprised. ;)

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Originally Posted by rabernet

You won't know unless you actually called Adam. I think you'd be pleasantly surprised. ;)

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I will certainly consider it come the new year.. I wouldnt want to waste his time when were not financially able until April.. im thinking a spider at this point...I want to see some pictures of adult spiders and see what they look like when they are grown "up"

I thought you 2 couldnt keep bp's for some reason?

Is this just for internet and no personal contact?
It really depends on how reputable that jack and whoever are. I do my research on the breeders for weeks if I even think about buying from them. When it's a common animal like a ball python, I may not go with these two joe blows because I am willing to pay more money for a snake from adam that I know is going to be top notch.

I don't have to do any research on adam, we've done business and he's a high profile person. It's hard to be sneaky and underhanded when you have great customer relations, and lots of satisfied customers.

If say, Adam's popularity got to his head and his snakes were WAY WAY WAY overpriced, I would look harder at smaller breeders. I'm all for saving money, but I won't just jump at the chance for a cheaper snake, because you usually get what you pay for.
[plus adam is usually willing to deal to make his WAY WAY WAY overpriced animal affordable, how else is he gonna sell? ;), *p.s- Adam's animals are NOT overpriced :D]

I have to say I was in almost this exact same situation a couple months ago. I had a very set amount of money I could spend, and didn't expect to be able to scrounge up any more in the near future. I figured it couldn't hurt, so I called Adam. After talking with him we were able to work it out, and voila I have a BEAUTIFUL!! top of the line lesser. I honestly thought it was out of my reach, but Adam made it work for me. (thanks again!) I say make that call. :yes:

As far as the quality of animals you have to give all breeders a chance... Mark and Joe may not be widely known but whose to say they didnt pick their snakes up from adam?? Its hard to say so and so produces "top knotch snakes" when Ive seen snakes produced by RDR, NERD, and others that to me werent "top notch"... It happens to all breeders... not all of your snakes are going to be the best lookin quality. If your going for a visual morph... pick the best looking one.. If your going with hets... thats when I would say get with the top dawgs bc then you know your getting what you pay for.

If I were at a large reptile show where your hypothetical people were all standing around with identical snakes that I wanted, I'd chat with them. If any of them were snobby or standoffish to me, I'd walk to the next table.

Price is less of a concern than how I feel about the seller. If I feel like they are going to be there for me if (God Forbid) any problems arise, then they have my business. If I feel like they are going to say "Sorry 'bout your luck" then they don't earn my business.

I have met good people and bad people at all levels of this business. To me it doesn't matter if they are a new breeder or one of the "Big Names"... Treat me right and you can count on my money.