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My bp doesnt like me???

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  • 10-16-2007, 11:11 AM
    BallPythonsRule
    Re: My bp doesnt like me???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by juddb
    How do you know if he is scared or not??? honestly. Im not trying to argue with anyone, but when you pull a bp out of the tub and he is crawling around your hand, or you put him on the bed and he takes off , he is literally trying to escape and hide from you. I doubt they are being curious to see what the bed or the rest of the room looks like or trying to get exercise. They just want to get away and hide in a nice warm spot.... I hope this makes sense. :2cent: So what im trying to say is no matter how much handling you do, they are still going to be bp's.

    I don't know if he's scared or not, he just doesn't act as scared as he did before... I'm not a snake whisperer so I truly have no idea.
  • 10-16-2007, 11:16 AM
    juddb
    Re: My bp doesnt like me???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BallPythonsRule
    I don't know if he's scared or not, he just doesn't act as scared as he did before... I'm not a snake whisperer so I truly have no idea.

    Understood.... :rockon:
  • 10-17-2007, 08:42 PM
    bearhart
    Re: My bp doesnt like me???
    I would recommend more handling. Once per day if possible. The handling sessions themselves can be just a few minutes.

    Also, when I feed mine in-cage I often times see the behavior you describe. He'll smell the mouse and know I'm dropping something in but then he'll start tracking me even if I move a couple of feet away from the cage. One thing I've done is just move so that he is looking more towards the rodent and he'll switch. I've also found that once the prey gets close enough he'll figure it out. This only occurs when feeding in his glass cage but never when in a tub or cardboard box.

    I've seen a similar behavior in my JCP once when I replaced his heat lamp right after dropping a rat in. For a minute or so he was totally fixated on the lamp.

    I think that once they get ready to feed (smell it) they just naturally tend to "lock on" to any nearby heat signatures.
  • 10-18-2007, 05:49 AM
    Riyuu
    Re: My bp doesnt like me???
    Ok thanks! Ill try handling at lease once a day. :3
  • 10-18-2007, 06:59 AM
    juddb
    Re: My bp doesnt like me???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bearhart
    I would recommend more handling. Once per day if possible. The handling sessions themselves can be just a few minutes.

    Also, when I feed mine in-cage I often times see the behavior you describe. He'll smell the mouse and know I'm dropping something in but then he'll start tracking me even if I move a couple of feet away from the cage. One thing I've done is just move so that he is looking more towards the rodent and he'll switch. I've also found that once the prey gets close enough he'll figure it out. This only occurs when feeding in his glass cage but never when in a tub or cardboard box.

    I've seen a similar behavior in my JCP once when I replaced his heat lamp right after dropping a rat in. For a minute or so he was totally fixated on the lamp.

    I think that once they get ready to feed (smell it) they just naturally tend to "lock on" to any nearby heat signatures.

    I have to disagree with what you are telling us here. All you need is a pair of tongs (not the wooden ones, the stainless steel surgical ones) #1 you wont smell like rodents and #2 you shouldnt be feeding outside the enclosure anyway. Feeding in or outside the enclosure doesnt do anything but eventually make the snake go off feed.
  • 10-18-2007, 07:24 AM
    rabernet
    Re: My bp doesnt like me???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Riyuu
    Ok thanks! Ill try handling at lease once a day. :3

    Keep in mind that your snake may be naturally timid, and daily handling may or may not change his demeanor.
  • 10-18-2007, 07:26 AM
    Mindibun
    Re: My bp doesnt like me???
    You just said, "feeding in or outside the enclosure" doesnt do anything but eventually make them go off feeds. I'm sure it was a typo, but it made me laugh since that would suggest never feeding them at all! :D

    Anyway, my 07' girl is very shy and reserved also. She *sometimes* greets me in her tub and sometimes not. I've had her for months and she still balls up when I reach in the tub to stroke her back. The difference is, nowadays, once I've got her up onto me, she uncurls and is somewhat curious. When I first got her, she just stayed in that ball shape.

    So I think that regular handlings do help, at least a little. But it's like someone said, different snakes have different "snakealities" (as it was so poetically put. lol) My big girl is a whore. She loves everyone and anyone and will get herself into anything. She's fearless. The little one is afraid of her own shadow, and has been ever since I got her. So I'm willing to bet that she'll be that way even as an adult, though maybe not to such an extent.

    Hope I helped. :/

    -Haylee
  • 10-18-2007, 09:15 AM
    bearhart
    Re: My bp doesnt like me???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by juddb
    I have to disagree with what you are telling us here. All you need is a pair of tongs (not the wooden ones, the stainless steel surgical ones) #1 you wont smell like rodents and #2 you shouldnt be feeding outside the enclosure anyway. Feeding in or outside the enclosure doesnt do anything but eventually make the snake go off feed.

    I only relayed my experience so I'm not sure what you mean when you say you disagree. Are you saying I'm lying? You could possibly be disagreeing that a BP that smells food would starting locking on heat sources. However, I would be willing to bet that with a little home experimentation, you could convince yourself otherwise. :P

    Also, your last assertion which, I assume, is that feeding snakes out of enclosure just makes them go off feed is not correct.
  • 10-18-2007, 09:19 AM
    juddb
    Re: My bp doesnt like me???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rabernet
    Keep in mind that your snake may be naturally timid, and daily handling may or may not change his demeanor.

    Thank you....
  • 10-18-2007, 09:19 AM
    juddb
    Re: My bp doesnt like me???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mindibun
    You just said, "feeding in or outside the enclosure" doesnt do anything but eventually make them go off feeds. I'm sure it was a typo, but it made me laugh since that would suggest never feeding them at all! :D

    Anyway, my 07' girl is very shy and reserved also. She *sometimes* greets me in her tub and sometimes not. I've had her for months and she still balls up when I reach in the tub to stroke her back. The difference is, nowadays, once I've got her up onto me, she uncurls and is somewhat curious. When I first got her, she just stayed in that ball shape.

    So I think that regular handlings do help, at least a little. But it's like someone said, different snakes have different "snakealities" (as it was so poetically put. lol) My big girl is a whore. She loves everyone and anyone and will get herself into anything. She's fearless. The little one is afraid of her own shadow, and has been ever since I got her. So I'm willing to bet that she'll be that way even as an adult, though maybe not to such an extent.

    Hope I helped. :/

    -Haylee

    Typo sorry i dont even know what i was trying to say anymore its too early in the morning.
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