is ventilation needed?

sorry for getting all mad and defensive. Im just mad at the fact that i didnt know. If i would of, i would of only gotten 1 for now.

I would just feel rotten having to put 1 in a rubbermaid and keep it locked away like a slave. I know thats retarded,, and the snake would probably like it.

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I would just feel rotten having to put 1 in a rubbermaid and keep it locked away like a slave. I know thats retarded

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Of course that's retarded....who keeps their slaves in rubbermaid tubs?

In Africa, they stay in burrows and dark termite mounds about 95% of their life. They thrive in plastic enclosures because they are slightly translucent, so the snake feels secure. Tubs are also so much easier to keep temperatures and humidity up to par. I have 31 snakes right now and every single one is kept in plastic tubs. They eat every week, they shed on a good schedule, they gain weight like nobody's business, they interact well with me and don't act stressed(no one balls up), and they bred last year, giving me 3 clutches. If snakes aren't happy with something, they will stop eating, shedding, growing, and breeding.

Just so their basic needs are provided: security, temperatures, humidity, food. That's all they need. Everything else added is to the benefit of the keeper.

You could easily move both snakes into two identical 15qt or 32qt tub set ups for $90 or so(the thermostat is $75, so that's the main cost). Moving them to the closet would give them privacy, especially away from the noisy kids :) , and they could do their own thing. You would get to see them thrive, not just survive.

If you need help with the tub set ups, just ask. They are very easy to maintain(unlike tanks), and the initial cost is minimal(again, unlike tanks).

I don't know about anyone else, but my slaves are hung from the ceiling. So much more convenient that way..

Did you get them from a pet store? Pet stores are some of the worst places to buy pets from. I used to work at one and 90% of the information coming out of pet store employees is completely wrong. Customers expect an answer and if they don't know it others find it easier to just lie or "BS" their way out of it. Instead of asking their manager or someone who would know.

True story. I had a mite problem once and I wanted to fix it. I had read a lot on here about Provent-a-mite, which works wonders(Thanks Bob Pound !). I decided to see if any places around here carried it, before I ordered it directly. I go into Petland and I look at their reptile section to see if they have any. I looked and decided to ask before I left, since I couldn't find it. An employee said " Oh know we don't carry mite killing products, because none exist". At this point I was in shock. She told me to empty my tank and put 2 inches of water in it and drown all the mites and that would fix my problem.

Moral of the story. Pet stores are the worst place for information considering some caresheets they give out are contradictory to what they actually do.

Housing BP's CAN work and has been argued in many many many many threads on here for both side of the issue, same on feeding. You can do what many recommend and you will have a much greater chance at success or you can do it your way and hope things work out. I hope they do. But I would advise separation, but if you want to do it the hard way, you may.

Yea i bought them from petco. And as you can see, he also recommended a retarded lamp.

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Yea i bought them from petco. And as you can see, he also recommended a retarded lamp.

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See how expensive impulsive reptile purchases can be, not including hides and a water dish?

2 over priced WC pythons $120
aquarium w/screen lid $20
heat lamp $10
reflector $10
UTH $20
My guess for the total $180
Plus vet bills for 2 pythons ?????

Planned purchase
1 nice cbb python $30
Sterilite tub w/ lid $5
Flexwatt and cord $6
Ball Pythons in Captivity book $10
Total $51

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See how expensive impulsive reptile purchases can be, not including hides and a water dish?

2 over priced WC pythons $120
aquarium w/screen lid $20
heat lamp $10
reflector $10
UTH $20
My guess for the total $180
Plus vet bills for 2 pythons ?????

Planned purchase
1 nice cbb python $30
Sterilite tub w/ lid $5
Flexwatt and cord $6
Ball Pythons in Captivity book $10
Total $51

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I would up the cost on the original one by about $50. No way a tank and screen is $20. The tank alone is $50 and the screen is around $20. When I bought my snake I too bought it from a store. At the time I didn't know you could mail snakes. The employee also insisted I buy a lamp and said how it was needed. I insisted he was very wrong and he kind of left me alone.

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I would up the cost on the original one by about $50. No way a tank and screen is $20. The tank alone is $50 and the screen is around $20. When I bought my snake I too bought it from a store. At the time I didn't know you could mail snakes. The employee also insisted I buy a lamp and said how it was needed. I insisted he was very wrong and he kind of left me alone.

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I tried to stay on the low side so my point wouldn't be lost if I was a little over. I get 10gal aquariums for $10 and 10gal screen lids for $10 too. The Plastic locking reptile lids for 10gal tanks are $8. Mejer and WalMart. However, the baby BPs at my PetCo are usually around $70 each, so I'm sure it was a bit more than my estimate.

eh, the pythons were $55 a piece. I have been wanting one for over 4 months now, wasnt 100% impulsive. I just didnt know where to look for one. Didnt find you guys till this week.


I have the whole thing insulated on the top now.. Even after i mist it,, within 15 mins, the humidity is back down to like 45% or so. Anything i can do to fix this? Or is getting moisture holding substrate the only option?