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Re: Mites...
I don't use Pam on my snakes nor do i use Bip-spot or hartz products on my shepherd.
I definitly value my collection just as you do. I never said i didn't. My animals are NOT dispensible.
I only stated that it was cheaper because money is not a factor for me but it is for some people.
I only used it once because i bought an Emerald Green Tree Boa and i noticedhe had mites quite badly after i brought him home so i wanted something i could use on the enclosure witout risking a tag from him.
Now that he is in the enclosure I use Reptile Relief spray.
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Originally Posted by SatanicIntention
I'm sure he swears by it.. It's cheap. So is Raid.
Since I value my collection and don't want to use unknown chemicals on my snakes, I will spend the extra $10 and use what is proven effective and safe. I will use Frontline as well, because it is safe and proven effective(it's definitely far from inexpensive).
Provent-A-Mite treats existing infestations as well as prevents recurrences(30+ days since it is residual).
If your snake has an adverse reaction to NIX, who are you going to complain to? No one.. Because it's not approved for use in reptiles. If your snake has an adverse reaction to PAM(which I highly doubt if used correctly), you're going to bring your concerns to Bob Pound, and he will address them. It is FDA approved for use in reptiles.
I'm not going to risk my snakes coming into contact with unknown chemicals so I can save $10...
Anyone ever use Bip-Spot or Hartz flea products on your dogs/cats? Yeah.. I know we all love seizures and death, but seriously. Why spend $5 on a product that is known to cause problems, when you can go buy Frontline, Revolution or Advantage at your vet and not have to dole out $100's worth in vet bills for your poisoned, seizuring animal? I don't get it.
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Re: Mites...
I'm not saying you don't value your collection. What I am saying is that just because someone says that they've used this certain human/livestock OTC product for years without problems, doesn't mean that it's safe or the best idea. I mean, seriously, I could go spray cattle drench on my snakes and they'd be parasite free real quick, but is that in their best interest? Not really.
And you don't use Provent-A-Mite on the snakes themselves. You spray the enclosure for 1-2 seconds, let it air out for awhile until everything is dry, and then you replace the snake. The mites die very quickly and no chemicals are ever put directly on the snake.
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Re: Mites...
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Originally Posted by Roswell
1) Strip the entire tank down to nothing and wash it with 10% bleach mixed with water. To get that you put 10 ml of bleach in with 1L of water. Then clean all deco with that mixture as well. Let it completely dry and then wipe down with a damp cloth. Let dry again then put the snake back.With both of these ideas you can repeat as often as you like.
Good luck :) :D
10% bleach solution is 100mL and 1 litre of water. 10 mL to 1 litre is only 1%.
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Re: Mites...
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Originally Posted by PythonWallace
10% bleach solution is 100mL and 1 litre of water. 10 mL to 1 litre is only 1%.
Math brain is on vacation!:D :D
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Re: Mites...
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Originally Posted by SatanicIntention
And you don't use Provent-A-Mite on the snakes themselves. You spray the enclosure for 1-2 seconds, let it air out for awhile until everything is dry, and then you replace the snake. The mites die very quickly and no chemicals are ever put directly on the snake.
Thats the same thing you do with the Nix. Use it on the enclosure after removing the snake.
He (the Emerald) had the worst case of mites; so for this occassion, yes it was in the snakes best interests. Especially since i don't have an abundance of different choices around my area when it comes to mite killing products.
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Re: Mites...
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Originally Posted by Roswell
Thats the same thing you do with the Nix. Use it on the enclosure after removing the snake.
He (the Emerald) had the worst case of mites; so for this occassion, yes it was in the snakes best interests. Especially since i don't have an abundance of different choices around my area when it comes to mite killing products.
So i hope you have since ordered a can of pam for a just in case measure... I wouldnt use nix to treat for reptile mites, thats for sure.
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Re: Mites...
wow, the amount of information ya'll have shot our way is overwhelming, thanks! Something I (brett) forgot to add in my original post, pertaining to the steps we took to treat our babies and what product we used. As you can see, Stefanie pays a bit more attention than me.
- After a regular cleaner we used Zoo Med's Wipe Out 1 Cleaner
- We treated the snakes with Natural Chemistry's -De Flea, Reptile Relief- "Kills Mites on Contact"
Thus, being the reason I am confused as to why they returned...
If that perks someones mind as to why they came back, please let us know so we can not make the mistake again! :snake:
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Re: Mites...
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Originally Posted by CruelHerbie
wow, the amount of information ya'll have shot our way is overwhelming, thanks! Something I (brett) forgot to add in my original post, pertaining to the steps we took to treat our babies and what product we used. As you can see, Stefanie pays a bit more attention than me.
- After a regular cleaner we used Zoo Med's Wipe Out 1 Cleaner
- We treated the snakes with Natural Chemistry's -De Flea, Reptile Relief- "Kills Mites on Contact"
Thus, being the reason I am confused as to why they returned...
If that perks someones mind as to why they came back, please let us know so we can not make the mistake again! :snake:
The reason they came back is because the De flea stuff you used killed the mites but not the eggs so after a while the eggs hatch and booyah more mites... You might want to invest in some pam.... just to be sure they never come back.... Good luck
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Re: Mites...
I had one case of mites in my collection before and did the same thing everyone else does, go to petsmart or petco or wherever and pick up some reptile relief or whatever name brand stuff they carry now adays, and to my suprise it didnt work. So i took everyone's advice on the forum and PAm worked like a charm. just use it as directed..... Good luck
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Re: Mites...
While we have this thread going I have some questions about mites...
Where do mites come from? They obviously don't create themselves so I am wondering how they are usually introduced to an otherwise mite-free snake.
That being said, I bought a feeder last week and I noticed a couple tiny, pin point sized bugs on it, unfortunately I noticed this after he started to swallow it. I used the corner of a note card to remove the two bugs I saw from the rat but I am sure it had more. Is this where mites come from? If not, should I be concerned about my snake eating these rats that have bugs?
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