shakey spiders...

There is alot about it on this forum if you do a search. I dont have a link to any of them but theres tons of info on spinning and the shakes. I read alot about it and seen a few really bad cases of spinning. Thats what made me change my mind on a spider. Dont get me wrong their killer. Everything there crossed with is killer. I just didnt want to end up with a bunch of babies that were all messed up. That i couldnt get rid of. I ended up getting a female mojave instead of the spider female i had picked out.Nobody knows what really causes it. Some that do it have stopped. Some that didnt do it have started. Messed up ones can have fine babies. Good ones can have messed up babies. I was reading somewhere RDR and Nerd both said they dont have one spider that isnt messed up in someway.Im not saying anything bad about either of them. Both are great guys. I was talking to the guy i got my mojave from. He said none of his spin. Some of the babies shake but not that bad. After a few weeks cant even notice it.

my spider spins like crazy at night... but only at night...

and my bee only spins when you hold her... she enjoys beign upside down...

but i think it is cool as hell... gives them a personality.... and a spinning spider is cute IMO because they look.... confused

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Originally Posted by Dr_Gonz0

With responsible breeding, hopefully it can be bred out ... unless it is tied directly to the spider gene. I guess only time will tell.

Robin

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This problem with the spiders will never be bred out. If it could be, it would have been done by now with all the crosses and more spiders that have been produced. It is something that is tied to the spider gene.

All spiders do it. Some to a lesser degree than others.
You should have been told about this by the breeder before you bought it.

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Originally Posted by MPenn

This problem with the spiders will never be bred out. If it could be, it would have been done by now with all the crosses and more spiders that have been produced. It is something that is tied to the spider gene.

All spiders do it. Some to a lesser degree than others.
You should have been told about this by the breeder before you bought it.

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I am aware, that is why i said unless it was tied to the gene. However, some exhibit this trait much more than others. My Spider is pretty chill for the most part, but like others have said, that doesn't mean it's offspring won't have this problem.

As far as saying it is proven to be fact, that is debateable. Considering they have only been bred artificially for what ... 7-8 seasons now? That is much too small of a sample size to definitively say.

Robin

My spider boy does it but i think he is just trying to show off!!! :carrot:

Yea my girl spins too but its chilled out now that shes in her new enclosure... I think shes just doing her best to attrack spiderman :)

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Originally Posted by Dr_Gonz0

As far as saying it is proven to be fact, that is debateable. Considering they have only been bred artificially for what ... 7-8 seasons now? That is much too small of a sample size to definitively say.

Robin

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There are thousands of spiders out there now. How many need to be produced before considering it a large sample size? Every one I have ever seen has been at least a little off and I have probably looked at about a hundred of them back when I was considering getting a few. If NERD, RDR, and Adam say they all do it to some degree I will believe them.

I have a female who is a normal and is slightly tweaked, but then I'm also buying two Spiders :) Just means more interesting little boogers to observe and watch grow up.

My little guy has a bit of the shakiness, but he doesn't spin or react abnormally when his head is touched. I know when this came up on Fauna a number of people said they had spiders with no wobble (one provided a vid to prove it). Whether or not it can be bred out still remains to be seen. My understanding is that the original spider had this trait, which is what makes it so difficult.
If we can't get rid of it entirely, we might be able to minimize it through selective breeding, so that's where I'm going personally.

I also don't think it's automatically a major issue, because in all but a few cases, it isn't severe enough to impair the snake from feeding and breeding. I figure they're sort of like fainting goats and waltzing mice. If it proves impossible to breed out, I still like spiders.

Mice take dance lessons? Now that must be a sight, hehe.

But seriously, what do waltzing mice look like? Drunkards?