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Re: Is there a such thing as an inexpensive morph of a snake/leo?
I went into this thinking "Geez! 1100$ for that??! Look how small she is"
Now I'm at "Yea! 1100!$ I can totally afford that, what a great buy!"
It all depends on what you think is expensive compared to the market.
As for normals, I have some really nice reduced patterns that I just go "wow, aren't you just gorgeous!"
I second the whole corns too, I bought my Sunglow male for under 100 from a really great breeder around here, and I havent been disappointed. He just gets oranger and redder every time he sheds.
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Re: Is there a such thing as an inexpensive morph of a snake/leo?
You can usually find good deals on RTB's at shows, too. I've seen some ghosts priced at $300 (which seems like a lot, but really isn't when you talk about the mix involved). I've also seen some very nice normals posted around $100---pastels and very nice, clean gray babies. I've even seen some Surinames posted right around the $100 mark.
Just look around, talk to some people. You never know ;)
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Re: Is there a such thing as an inexpensive morph of a snake/leo?
Ball python morphs are not very cheap. Even the most common of morphs will run you at the very least 200.
As for leopard geckos, I purchased a hypo tangerine female for $80. Very pretty with a great personality.
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Re: Is there a such thing as an inexpensive morph of a snake/leo?
Great stuff from everyone!
elevatethis, Good point on the differential from the burm and retic market. Makes a lot of sense, I just remember when an albino burm (not a special one just a plain old Amel) was 2500 dollars or more. Now you can get a Bob Clark line one for 150, and Bob of course is one of the best there for quality Pythons.
On boas I do have one other suggestion. You could consider some of the sub species like Hogg's etc, perhaps a Nicaraguan, etc. Now that will push you into the 200-300 dollar range but it is a lot lower then a Hypo, Amel, Ghost, etc and to me Hoggs are just about one of the most beautiful Boas out there.
Or to be novel and have a boa, take a leap across the globe and think Dumerils Boa. They are just such great animals, calm once they grow a bit, the never get too big 6-7 feet max and very easy to care for. They are also something not everyone has, here is my little dumerils,
Just remember you can always get more snakes in the future, :)
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Re: Is there a such thing as an inexpensive morph of a snake/leo?
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Originally Posted by jjspirko
Or to be novel and have a boa, take a leap across the globe and think Dumerils Boa. They are just such great animals, calm once they grow a bit, the never get too big 6-7 feet max and very easy to care for. They are also something not everyone has, here is my little dumerils,
What a good looking guy! Um... your dumerils, I mean. Are they as docile as a BP?
Edit=fix quote.
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Re: Is there a such thing as an inexpensive morph of a snake/leo?
Thanks everyone for the great replies!
Lately I have really begun to fall in love with RTB's and other similar boas; that one (Dumerils) is gorgeous! I guess I hadn't really thought of going to unique species rather than unique colors. I suppose I'm a little nervous about buying something that's uncommon because what if it has very specific requirements or just has no available info about how to take care of it? (I'd obviously talk to the breeder about it but there's only so much info you can gather orally.)
You are all being very helpful, I really appreciate it!! :hug:
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Re: Is there a such thing as an inexpensive morph of a snake/leo?
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Originally Posted by jjspirko
Just remember you can always get more snakes in the future, :)
Oh trust me, when I have my own house and a steady job I'm designating a herp/invert room, no questions asked ;) .
I always thought it would be neat to have a tegu instead of a dog, too. I know they're hard to keep but they're just amazing animals... :sunny: Ok well that's just me dreaming!
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Re: Is there a such thing as an inexpensive morph of a snake/leo?
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Originally Posted by elevatethis
While the boa and ball market are only recently beginning to mature, I think the size of the market for boas and balls are considerably larger than burms and retics because, let's face it, most people out there, including seasoned keepers, don't have the resources/space/desire to own a 15-20ft, 150lb+ animal. Less demand = lower prices. Balls and boas are much more accessible to 'everyday' type people, and with a greater demand, the downward slope of the market to maturity isn't as steep.
Brad, excellent point!
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Re: Is there a such thing as an inexpensive morph of a snake/leo?
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Originally Posted by icygirl
I guess I hadn't really thought of going to unique species rather than unique colors. I suppose I'm a little nervous about buying something that's uncommon because what if it has very specific requirements or just has no available info about how to take care of it? (I'd obviously talk to the breeder about it but there's only so much info you can gather orally.)
You are all being very helpful, I really appreciate it!! :hug:
One thing I would say about a Dumerils is if you can care for a RTB then caring or a Dum ain't much different. Temps are about the same, they get about the same size (Dumerils are slightly smaller on average), they do well about the same humidity, etc. They both can be fed rats even as adults specificly the males that don't get as big as the gals do.
I can tell you about all you need to know as to the "additional needs" of a Dumerils right here.
1. They have no desire to climb on anything. So no branches etc are needed nor would they be used.
2. They like to bury in substrate. Make sure their is an aspen or similar layer large enough for them to cover up.
3. When they are burried and only have their head poking up DO NOT reach around their head, they may indeed take a bite out of you. This is just how they hunt.
4. Some can be a bit of a pain to get on FT but I have not had problems. My Dumerils I do have to use tongs and move the mouse/rat around his head a bit then he explodes on it (really, really cool). Once in a while I have to pick up the mouse (with tongs) and do it again. Sometimes he grabs it but does not start to feed. If I don't make sure he ate I have twice found a stinking mouse the next morning. When he does not eat I move the mouse around and get him to grab it again, then I pull a bit on it and that gets him riled up and he eats every time. If I feed him live it is a non issue.
5. Since they like to burry they may not be as great a display animal as a RTB but as my little guy has grown he stays exposed a lot more.
6. If he is good an burried I advise using a hook to dig him out. They are one of the most laid back snakes I have ever worked with once tamed down. They move slow, don't mind being handled, seldom if ever bite, etc. But I can not over state the way they attack when in ambush mode. I know my guy would not bite me now if he realized it was my hand but when he is ready to feed he is all business.
Basicly like any snake they have rules, if you follow them all goes well and they are an easy snake to keep. No real special requirements really just respect their ambush mode, because when you don't follow the rules the snake still does. This is the same with my spotted pythons, they don't like my hand jacking around the opening of their hides. I can hold them for hours with no bites, no threats. But if I break their rules and start doing cage maintence wile they are in their hides, I am going to bleed, :D. They are not mean snakes they just have a rule, if it bobs around the hide opening they bite it, even when I don't follow that rule they still do, LOL who can blame them, :snake:
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Re: Is there a such thing as an inexpensive morph of a snake/leo?
Leos in a bouquet of color morphs are available for very little more than the price of a normal now. Same with corn snakes.
It will take BPs substantially longer to get there, but pastels are already down in the affordable range.
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