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  • 09-24-2007, 07:48 PM
    2kdime
    Re: Makes Me Sick! Reporting a pet shop?!?
    We have a store here like that I get feeders from. I hate going in there everytime.

    There's a cage with baby balls. Large balls. Burmese pythons. And large boas all in the same cage. With sh*t and urates everywhere. All of em have retained eyecaps and sheds. FILTHY water filled with poop. Every single time.

    So what can I do? Find my local aspca and give em a call?

    The dogs and stuff there are ok. The rabbits are allright it seems. Fish are ok. Just the way they treat they're snakes is horrendous.
  • 09-24-2007, 07:59 PM
    rushchaser
    Re: Makes Me Sick! Reporting a pet shop?!?
    It is soo unthinkable that people would do this to animals.. Pet stores at least, the only reason I would want to buy an animal from them would be because I felt so bad for the animal. I sent in a complaint to the link that Deb sent me and I will follow up with a call in the morning. Hopefully they will take care of the situation and I definitely think that we as animal lovers have the responsibility to be the voices for any and every mistreated/neglected animal (especially herps) that we see. I say herp especially because as we all know there are many people who are very uneducated or could care less about them and might not see the not so obvious neglect or mistreatment that we would see. Such as housing x amount of snakes together or the little things that we know to stress out our snakes and such things like that.
  • 09-24-2007, 08:15 PM
    DragonBallsx5
    Re: Makes Me Sick! Reporting a pet shop?!?
    Personally as the sounding of 2kdime said.. And my personal experiences with my local pet shops, there puppies are taken care of ok,cats,fish,rabbits etc. are fine, Doesnt make it right for them to sell them, but you know.

    But I think there afraid of their reptiles or something, because their in terrible conditions, you shouldnt have an exotic if you cant care properly for it, there are no trained employee's, you ask a question and they look at you or tell you to look it up on line, I dont go there for anything else except my feeders as their the only pet store in DE, that carry F/T and live all sizes.

    And I cant wait for my reptile expos to come around so I dont have to buy anything from those damn pet stores. :mad: I hate them...

    They had Iguana's large and small in a tiny cage, dead ones were hanging from the roof of the cage, Pythons with eye caps, and sheds wraped around them,beardeds with dry flakey skin. ( And I know for a fact those beardeds do not get soaked, or the Balls get soaked when needed. )

    It really ticks me off. That pet stores can get away with promoting filthy puppy millers, sell unhealthy exotic animals uneducated people, and young kids who think its cool to own and snake,lizard etc. and dont know a darn thing how to care properly for their exotic needs.

    And a woman here in Delaware rescued dogs out of an act of compassion and get them all seized because of not having health certifercates, Here in DE you need a reptile license to own anything Exotic, and pet stores sell these animal to unknowing people...

    I really dont get it.. :mad:

    Sorry for venting.

    But really am I right in feeling this way or am I over reacting?
  • 09-24-2007, 08:26 PM
    Royalherper
    Re: Makes Me Sick! Reporting a pet shop?!?
    No, you are not overeacting. I've seen it at almost every pet store that I've ever been too. There is only one exception in my area, Pets and Things. They are phenominal. That is the only one I go to and I avoid the rest. Please take the advise given in the previous posts, and shut these guys down. Thats wishful thinking, atleast a hefty fine.
  • 09-24-2007, 08:26 PM
    rushchaser
    Re: Makes Me Sick! Reporting a pet shop?!?
    I've been the same way, really! Especially after every time we leave that pet shop. Example of being uneducated.. One of the guys that works at this particular pet shop was talking to us and when we asked him whether some balls were male or female, he told us he knew for sure they were all males because he had seen those "hooks" on them. Thinking that the spurs were a sign of being male. We laughed, but at the same time thinking wow this is a guy that is trying to keep, care for, and sell these reptiles. It :soapbx: :cens0r: me off!!
  • 09-24-2007, 08:55 PM
    jdmls88
    Re: Makes Me Sick! Reporting a pet shop?!?
    i hate the idea that pet stores become only about the money and not the animals. Sometimes it really bothers me how animals are kept in stores.
  • 09-24-2007, 09:01 PM
    Gooseman
    Re: Makes Me Sick! Reporting a pet shop?!?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dalvers63
    You should only need to file a complaint and let them know the conditions you saw at the store.

    Here is a link to the Louisiana ASPCA Animal Abuse page and a short paragraph with contact info:

    http://www.la-spca.org/prevention/cruelty.htm

    "The public is the biggest ally in fighting animal cruelty and neglect. It is crucial that everyone gets involved and stays involved. If you witness animal cruelty, or think that you have, in Orleans Parish, call the LA/SPCA at (504) 368-5191, as well as the police department or fill out the online Request For Investigation Report."

    In this case, it isn't about the people, it is about the animals. If they get in trouble then that is the consequence for allowing the animals to get in this condition.

    Good for you for sticking up for the pets. MOst of the time, the Animal Control agencies are way understaffed and the only time they know about conditions such as you describe is when people call and report them.

    Let us know how it goes!

    :rockon:

    But yea... I would walk through tomorrow with a camera and take as many pics as you possibly can. However, be warned they may ask you to leave for taking pictures on private property, although that's about all they can do.
  • 09-24-2007, 09:03 PM
    Gooseman
    Re: Makes Me Sick! Reporting a pet shop?!?
    The saddest part of it all, is that it would probably be cheaper in the long-run for them to actually take the time and care for their animals. As they would have few to none die in their hands (lost profit), would have healthier animals that would attract customers away from corporate Petco/petsmart, and could possibly get away with even higher prices if it shows how much effort/care they put into their animals...
  • 09-24-2007, 09:10 PM
    2kdime
    Re: Makes Me Sick! Reporting a pet shop?!?
    How's this for being money hungry?

    My local pet shop. The one 2 miles from my house charges 5 dollars for a small feeder rat. Hahah I laugh everytime I think about it.
  • 09-24-2007, 09:52 PM
    rushchaser
    Re: Makes Me Sick! Reporting a pet shop?!?
    Yeah, there prices I think are still pretty high. There beardies are like at minimum $200. Everything else is pretty high too I just can't remember off hand. They obviously don't have a very good turn over rate because of all these factors, meaning we pretty much see all the same animals every time we are there. The biggest thing they sell has got to be there feeders. Which they are actually in the process of building a new little bitty feeder room, because there neighbors in the little strip mall all complained about the smell. We told them that we recommend putting vanilla in the water on top of this (we breed some of our rats and to us it makes a significant difference with the vanilla as to without) and there response was they do too much with the feeders all ready (in regards to basic changing of the substrate) to be bothered to put vanilla in water. They don't even really clean them out very well. We went today to get a couple mice and there were dead mice all in the tubs. We kinda hate to get our feeders from them, but are really limited as to where we can get them from. Until we get our rat project down pat. They are just crummy all around!
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