BP crossed with other species

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Originally Posted by PythonWallace

I think breeding a rottweiler to a poodle is the same as interracial breeding, being that rotts and poodles are different sub-species of the same species. Not to offend anyone either, and correct me if I'm wrong. And your different nationalities aren't different sub species. They are all considered Caucisoid.

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I didn't say different nationalities are different subspecies. Thats why I compaired it to morphs in the ball python species.

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Originally Posted by PythonWallace

They are all considered Caucisoid.

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And in my case glaikit as well.:P

You said interracial breeding is like morphs. Inter nationality breeding is like morphs. Interracial breeding is like the rottweiler to the poodle example. Morphs are all Regius, German, Swiss, Scottish and Irish are all Caucasoid. I'm Norwegian, Welsh, Dutch and German, by the way. I'm not possitive about the dogs, though. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

All breeds of dogs are "morphs" of the same species.

Hybridization in mammals would be something like the liger (lion/tiger cross) or the zorse (zebra/horse).

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Originally Posted by slartibartfast

All breeds of dogs are "morphs" of the same species.

Hybridization in mammals would be something like the liger (lion/tiger cross) or the zorse (zebra/horse).

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Aren't different breeds of dogs different sub-species?

most hybrids are genetic dead ends since they are usually sterile but i believe that the superball isn't sterile which is cool but alot of care needs to be used when playing with hybrids.

Nope. They are pretty much all human-developed breeds, and can all cross-breed within the physical limits imposed by their respective sizes.

I would consider dogs, dingos, and wolves to be subspecies of canines, as they can reproduce easily with each other. I'm not sure what the official stance is on this at present; it seems to fluctuate.

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Originally Posted by Royalherper

They don't even originate from the same countries. It just seems wrong to me.

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That is not always necessarily true. The Angolan x Ball hybrid has been created on more than one occasion. Those two species do actually have a range that overlaps each other in Angola. Now, I highly doubt that a Woma or Carpet Python or a Burm would ever run across a Ball.

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Originally Posted by slartibartfast

I would consider dogs, dingos, and wolves to be subspecies of canines, as they can reproduce easily with each other. I'm not sure what the official stance is on this at present; it seems to fluctuate.

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Um... thank you!

Basic biology here guys. ALL humans are in the same species. All dog breeds (poodle, rottie, shepherd, etc.) are the same species, just bred selectively for different qualities (like morphs).

Subspecies can sometimes have offspring, like the canine example above. Also, the example of becoming sterile after breeding - offspring a dead end - happens with donkeys and horses. They can have offspring, but offspring are sterile.

Breeding a Blood python with a ball is cross-species - a hybrid, as someone said. That does enter the territory of questions that may arise - is that morally / philosophically right?

It's all part of the genetic engineering slippery slope - selective (in-species) breeding, hybrids, cloning, turning genes on and off, inserting genes in nucleus of another species' eggs, etc.

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Originally Posted by Royalherper

I'm not talking about any one person. I wouldn't equate this to interracial breeding. Humans are a species among themselves. Interracial racial breeding in more like morphs in the snake world. I'm not trying to offend anyone with that statement. I'm just trying to clarify my point. Heck, I'm part German, Scots, Irish, Swiss and God knows what else. Hybrids in snakes is more like mixing Quarter horses with Clydesdales or a Rottweiler with a poodle. It's just wrong IMO.

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That's not true, regarding the horse breeds. If you were to breed a horse to a donkey and get a mule, that is like breeding two different types of pythons. And since I know of many mules that serve their owners well and make awesome animals with the benefits of both sides of their lineage, I can't complain about snake hybrids.