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  • 09-26-2007, 08:39 AM
    jwarriner
    Re: Contact with tape = skin injury
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lord jackel
    No one on here is an expert or vet and therefore NO ONE will diagnose a potential life threatening wound over the internet from a simple description.

    I didn't ask for a diagnosis, I asked if anyone else had experience with the type of injury. Which one person did. But maybe I was a little harsh. I've just read "take him/her to the vet" so many times on these forums now that I wanted to say something. It's one thing to relay some experience and end it with "take him to the vet" like ballroom did and then it's another just to post "take him/her to the vet!" That's not going to stress people out more?

    If the injury were fatal what could the vet do anyway? That was another point my vet was trying to get across. As :cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r:ty as it sounds, they aren't going to perform emergency surgery/procedures on a baby ball python. Basically no matter how severe or life threatening it was, he was still going to say the same thing: "neosporin, paper towels, watch for infection, wait it out." I was as shocked as anyone about what he had to say. Had the snake not improved so rapidly I might have gotten a second opinion after a couple days but the vet was right.
  • 09-26-2007, 09:26 AM
    JoshJP7
    Re: Contact with tape = skin injury
    I have to agree with the OP here... Obviously everyone knows that if theres a problem then you can take your animal whatever it is to the vet... to just state take them to the vet is common sense. Just the other week my dog got stung or bit by something and his face was swollen up and my mom wanted to rush him to the emergency vet... thats 100$ just to walk through thr doors... luckily I convinced her not to take him in and wait a day... the next morning she took him to the vet and they gave him a shot of benedryl (the same thing we have him pills of)... either way I think the OP was looking for a little more information than just "take em to the vet" ... Hopefully were all smart enough to know that vets are their to help out our animals but they arnt always needed... Jwarriner just wanted to know if this was something he could take care of on his own or if it needed vet attention... I understand everyone is just trying to help but saying "take em to the vet" isnt doing much of anything... Either way... best of luck with the lil fella and I hope everything is OK with him.
  • 09-26-2007, 10:11 AM
    SatanicIntention
    Re: Contact with tape = skin injury
    And what if your dog had gotten bitten in the face by a rattlesnake and had passed away that night? Or what if he had acute organ or heart failure and it was actually edema in his face?

    This is why (most)vets are important. They are at least trained for 6-8 years on what could possibly be wrong with your pet and how to treat it. If I had called my vet(not that it matters because I'm a tech anyway), but if I was a normal dog/cat/snake/ferret owner, and I called my vet concerned about the very same thing, she would say to come in just in case. She doesn't like to take chances, especially if infection is possible.

    It's just the responsible thing to do.
  • 09-26-2007, 10:26 AM
    jwarriner
    Re: Contact with tape = skin injury
    Vet's are fine. I'm not anti-vet, I've had some nice vet bills in the past. Whether or not one should consult a vet when an animal is injured is not in dispute. We're all adults here, with common sense and a love for animals. Point is that it's such an overused answer on these interweb forums.

    What I was more interested in is actual experience. The thing about doctors and vets is they will rarely tell you what the day-to-day of recovery will be like, they neither want to give false hopes or scare you so they're intentionally vague. So what I wanted was insight from people who may have had similar experiences. A vet can say, "it'll heal, use Neosporin" but a person who went through it can say, "it took six weeks, it was difficult, I did this this this and that, etc."

    Anyway, discussion over.
  • 09-26-2007, 10:27 AM
    JoshJP7
    Re: Contact with tape = skin injury
    The difference here is between an emergency vet and a normal vet... Just like for humans... does it need immediate attention where you need to cough up some serious cash to walk through the door or is it something that can wait and can be attended to by your regular vet? I live in Syracuse, NY... we dont have anything along those lines that would cause serious injury to my dog... He was acting normal and was showing no signs of pain or anything like that... Trust me I am an animal lover and actually started out my college career with the intentions of becoming a zoologist ...if I thought the emergency vet would have been able to do something for me on the spot to take care of him I wouldnt have hesitated to take him... I've taken him in there be4 for a small dog bite only to be jerked around for 4 hrs to walk out with 2 staples that took all of 5 mins to put in yet I was charged 350$... If i had known I would have gone through all that garbage I would have just did my best to stop the blood flow and taken him to our normal vet the next day which we did anyways... You say its the responsible thing to do but some things do not need immediate attention... especially if its going to cost you an arm and a leg for something as simple as a shot of benedryl.
  • 09-26-2007, 01:08 PM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: Contact with tape = skin injury
    My point was, you posted this thread at 9 in the morning. I read it at 3 and responded, and there were no other reponses till 9 that night.
    You said he was obviously in pain, and bubbles under the skin. No, I've never had a snake run itself on tape, but to me, it sounded serious.
    I would hope no one takes online "expert" advice over a qualified vet for a something you know nothing about. That's just not responsible in my opinion.
    Now if the bubbles under skin was a common problem like stuck sheds, meaning it's nothing extreme or serious, I'm all for taking online advice. I've learned tons of great tricks on this forum.

    If something sounds serious to me like that did at the time, I will always advise taking the animal to the vet over waiting for a "forums" advice. (and most responses said to do the same anyways)
  • 09-26-2007, 02:05 PM
    lord jackel
    Re: Contact with tape = skin injury
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JoshJP7
    You say its the responsible thing to do but some things do not need immediate attention... especially if its going to cost you an arm and a leg for something as simple as a shot of benedryl.

    I agree with you...but WE (the forum members) are not qualified to make that determination about someone elses pet. A description like "my pet is moving around in pain" and "has air bubbles under the skin" sound serious, sound life threatening...at least to me. Only a vet is qualified to determine if an animal needs to be seen or not. (In this particular case he did not, but the OP wouldnt have known that for sure without the call)

    In the future I guess the best response to these types of questions should be "CALL your vet" instead of "Take them to the vet" ?
    But are we just splitting hairs?:confused:
  • 09-26-2007, 02:16 PM
    jwarriner
    Re: Contact with tape = skin injury
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lord jackel
    In the future I guess the best response to these types of questions should be "CALL your vet" instead of "Take them to the vet" ?
    But are we just splitting hairs?:confused:

    Still missing the point. I wanted to hear from people who may have had a similar unfortunate experience. I was looking for insight that might have been helpful before, during and after a vet visit. I didn't need to be told the obvious by every person who didn't have experience with this. I'm not sure what is so hard to understand.
  • 09-26-2007, 02:30 PM
    lord jackel
    Re: Contact with tape = skin injury
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jwarriner
    Still missing the point. I wanted to hear from people who may have had a similar unfortunate experience. I was looking for insight that might have been helpful before, during and after a vet visit. I didn't need to be told the obvious by every person who didn't have experience with this. I'm not sure what is so hard to understand.

    I don't think it is hard to understand the question....but what you were looking for as an answer is what is hard to understand.

    You asked for experience with what exactly? Being stuck to tape (but you said he was already off it...so any experience getting them off isn't what you wanted). You asked about him being in pain and having bubbles under the skin and the responses were that no one had seen bubbles under the skin but that the fact he was in pain meant you should take him to the vet.

    I guess my question is what would an acceptable response have been to you? If you were looking for "my snake had the exact same symptoms, exact same trama and was acting exactly the same way as yours is and my vet said do this" well you will never get that type of response because every situation is different and again from "he is in pain and has bubbles under the skin" it just isn't enough to go on. Perhaps in the future pictures would help...then people could see the problem and go "oh yea I had something like that on one of my snakes before".

    Don't get me wrong I am not trying to argue with you just help you understand that you are typing to people all over the country and trying to describe an injury in a couple of sentences and get a response...it is just too difficult in most cases to do. But we did try.:)
  • 09-26-2007, 06:56 PM
    jwarriner
    Re: Contact with tape = skin injury
    I don't even know what I was after. I was panicking when I wrote the original post. I called the vet and got the info I needed before I even read any replies here anyway. When I came back and read the replies it just made me mad thinking about how if I had read them that morning I'd have panicked even worse, took a vacation day from work and probably be out $300, which in hindsight was not necessary. Anyway. It doesn't matter. I'm over it and I'm sorry for offending anyone.
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