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Wild caught hatchlings

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  • 08-21-2007, 10:03 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Wild caught hatchlings
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pfan151
    If were you I would assist feed him a small hopper mouse or pinky rat. I think tube feeding provides more stress than nutrition. Just place the pinky him his mouth and try to get the pinkies head just past the jaw. Then you can place the snake back in his cage and he should finish eating it on his own. It may take a few trys but he will eat it and it will be much better for him than tube feeding.

    If the animal is wild caught and suffering from malnutrition and stress any form of assisted feeding could push it over the edge health wise. Get in touch with the breeder and work it out if the breeder isn't willing to work with you. Assisted feeding is a last resort but time is of the essence. Just my two cents.
  • 08-21-2007, 10:15 AM
    optprime
    Re: Wild caught hatchlings
    yeah it really sucks because I've never had assist any of my snakes and this poor little guys looks so bad, but I'm not gonna give up
  • 08-21-2007, 10:16 AM
    lord jackel
    Re: Wild caught hatchlings
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by optprime
    ok I'll send it to you in a P/M

    I would like it too.

    As I said you should also consider posting it in the feedback forum so everyone will know. :)
  • 08-21-2007, 10:29 AM
    J.Vandegrift
    Re: Wild caught hatchlings
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
    If the animal is wild caught and suffering from malnutrition and stress any form of assisted feeding could push it over the edge health wise. Get in touch with the breeder and work it out if the breeder isn't willing to work with you. Assisted feeding is a last resort but time is of the essence. Just my two cents.

    Assist feeding is far less stressful than tube feeding. The chances of his snake being WC are very slim IMO because it is a pastel. Some CB snake eat like crap too. It may be a good idea to get a fecal test done but I really think your most important thing right now is to get some food into him. Just keep the meal smaller than you would usually give to a snake of his size and hope for the best. His stool was more than likely runny due to the tube feeding. From his description it sounds like his snake may be too far gone but assist feeding is his only chance at saving it IMO.
  • 08-21-2007, 10:35 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Wild caught hatchlings
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pfan151
    The animal is not wild caught, it is a pastel.

    Excuse me...W/C is the improper term captive hatched. But you can still get W/C pastels
    Quote:

    From his description it sounds like his snake may be too far gone but assist feeding is his only chance at saving it IMO.
    The other side of this is that it might have not been an established feeder prior to being shipped. so you may have gotten an animal that has never excepted a meal.

    Get with the breeder!!!!!!! If you assist feed and it dies and then try to do anything the breeder can say that the animal was injured during an assist feeding and is in turn not his responsibility to replace.

    but in the end its your snake and your decision.
  • 08-21-2007, 10:42 AM
    J.Vandegrift
    Re: Wild caught hatchlings
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
    Excuse me...W/C is the improper term captive hatched. But you can still get W/C pastels


    The other side of this is that it might have not been an established feeder prior to being shipped. so you may have gotten an animal that has never excepted a meal.

    Get with the breeder!!!!!!! If you assist feed and it dies and then try to do anything the breeder can say that the animal was injured during an assist feeding and is in turn not his responsibility to replace.

    but in the end its your snake and your decision.

    I edited my first responce before I saw this post. I know it is possible that the snake is a CH but the chances are pretty slim. I agree that it probably never was an established feeder. From what the original poster said it sounds like the breeder is blowing him off and I doubt someone that would send of a snake in poor condition would be willing to help much. I just don't want to see this guys snake die because he is waiting on a breeder to respond. Many times after 1 or 2 assist feeds the snake will take off and eat on his own fine.
  • 08-21-2007, 10:57 AM
    optprime
    Re: Wild caught hatchlings
    I have called the breeder and e-mailed over 20 times for a month and a half and no answer..in my opinion and experience with hatchlings, I don't believe that this snake had eaten at all even though the breeder said it was feeing on rat pups..there is no way!...I want to feel like I can help him and he'll make it
  • 08-21-2007, 10:58 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Wild caught hatchlings
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by optprime
    I have called the breeder and e-mailed over 20 times for a month and a half and no answer..in my opinion and experience with hatchlings, I don't believe that this snake had eaten at all even though the breeder said it was feeing on rat pups..there is no way!...I want to feel like I can help him and he'll make it

    Well you have one option keep trying the tube feeding and see how it goes.

    Best of luck!
  • 08-21-2007, 11:10 AM
    J.Vandegrift
    Re: Wild caught hatchlings
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by optprime
    I have called the breeder and e-mailed over 20 times for a month and a half and no answer..in my opinion and experience with hatchlings, I don't believe that this snake had eaten at all even though the breeder said it was feeing on rat pups..there is no way!...I want to feel like I can help him and he'll make it


    How much does the snake currently weigh? What have you been tube feeding him? If he is losing much weight even with the tube feeding I really think you should try to assist feed a very small meal. Sometimes just one assist feed can get them started and they will eat fine for you after that. But it is your choice, good luck.
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