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Hog-Dogging...

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  • 07-24-2007, 09:35 AM
    daaangconcepts
    Re: Hog-Dogging...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
    We use a cross of Walkers and Red Coon Hound. The Pits they were using were unnecessary in the biggest since of the word. Using a dog like that you mean for the dog to inflict harm on the prey. And I would have to agree that they are doing it as a sick sport under the gise of training. Our dogs are for tracking and maintaining the hog position in an area. ;D And are trained to stay out of the hogs way but keep it in an area. :D:D:D

    Good answer.

    Using any bully breed like shown in the vid is like bringing back bull baiting only not using bulls (or bears) as bait.
  • 07-24-2007, 09:37 AM
    jglass38
    Re: Hog-Dogging...
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    Originally Posted by daaangconcepts
    Good answer.

    Using any bully breed like shown in the vid is like bringing back bull baiting only not using bulls (or bears) as bait.

    Susan is the smartness! Wicked cool!
  • 07-24-2007, 09:37 AM
    daniel1983
    Re: Hog-Dogging...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
    And I would have to agree that they are doing it as a sick sport under the gise of training.

    Yep.....and people abusing that sort of 'loop-hole' to get away with those things are going to completely ruin it for hunters.

    It is always the few idiots that screw something up for the whole.

    It would be interesting to see if guidelines for people hunting with dogs were similar to the guidelines placed on falconers.....

    ....i think it would be a completely different story then.
  • 07-24-2007, 09:39 AM
    jglass38
    Re: Hog-Dogging...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by daniel1983

    It would be interesting to see if guidelines for people hunting with dogs were similar to the guidelines placed on falconers.....

    ....i think it would be a completely different story then.

    Who would read the guidelines to the hunters? :D

    I keed, I keed!! Hunt away, I'm damn hungry...
  • 07-24-2007, 09:39 AM
    MeMe
    Re: Hog-Dogging...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jglass38
    Susan is the smartness! Wicked cool!


    she is completely underestimated and junk.
  • 07-24-2007, 09:39 AM
    jglass38
    Re: Hog-Dogging...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jeffnme
    she is completely underestimated and junk.

    Not by me!
  • 07-24-2007, 09:50 AM
    Morphie
    Re: Hog-Dogging...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
    The Pits they were using were unnecessary in the biggest since of the word. Using a dog like that you mean for the dog to inflict harm on the prey. And I would have to agree that they are doing it as a sick sport under the gise of training.

    Personally, I disagree.

    The APBT is an exceptional boar-hunting dog for the fact that it has strong jaws and is unlimitedly versatile and agile. The point of a boar-dog is to grab the pig and not let go until the hunter gets close enough to kill. If the dog *were* to accidentally slip, the hunter could be seriously maimed or killed by boar tusks. The dog, of course, is in similar danger.

    Knowing the strength of my dog's jaws is what i'm placing my life in, i would absolutely opt for a Pit, as theirs are among the strongest available, and their gameness assures that they will continue doing their job until they just... can't anymore. Those dogs in the vid are not fighting the pig, they're holding it - which is the point and essential for proper training.

    I'm not personally a boar-hunter, so i've got mixed feelings about the practice. I do own an APBT, though, and i'm pretty sure i wouldn't want anything but one of her if i *were* to participate. :shrug:
  • 07-24-2007, 09:59 AM
    daniel1983
    Re: Hog-Dogging...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Morphie
    The APBT is an exceptional boar-hunting dog for the fact that it has strong jaws and is unlimitedly versatile and agile. The point of a boar-dog is to grab the pig and not let go until the hunter gets close enough to kill. If the dog *were* to accidentally slip, the hunter could be seriously maimed or killed by boar tusks. The dog, of course, is in similar danger.

    ......where did you get this tid-bit of information from since you are not involved in the practice?

    When we hunt hogs with dogs.......the dog rarely every 'graps on to the pig'...and if they ever try to do so they quickly learn their lesson.....The dogs simply corner the hog.....no contact what-so-ever.....
  • 07-24-2007, 10:04 AM
    daaangconcepts
    Re: Hog-Dogging...
    Hmm...

    I think I would have to disagre with you on that one Morphie.

    I also am an owner of a few APBT's but I would NEVER want my dogs or any APBT for that matter involved in bull baiting/bear baiting/boar hunting whatever you want to call it.

    With the bad rep the breed has already, this so called "sport" will only do more damage. Its kinda like putting more full on a fire thats already burning uncontrollably.

    Just my opinion of course.
  • 07-24-2007, 10:05 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Hog-Dogging...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Morphie
    Personally, I disagree.

    The APBT is an exceptional boar-hunting dog for the fact that it has strong jaws and is unlimitedly versatile and agile. The point of a boar-dog is to grab the pig and not let go until the hunter gets close enough to kill. If the dog *were* to accidentally slip, the hunter could be seriously maimed or killed by boar tusks. The dog, of course, is in similar danger.

    Knowing the strength of my dog's jaws is what i'm placing my life in, i would absolutely opt for a Pit, as theirs are among the strongest available, and their gameness assures that they will continue doing their job until they just... can't anymore. Those dogs in the vid are not fighting the pig, they're holding it - which is the point and essential for proper training.

    I'm not personally a boar-hunter, so i've got mixed feelings about the practice. I do own an APBT, though, and i'm pretty sure i wouldn't want anything but one of her if i *were* to participate. :shrug:

    And yet your trying to give advice to someone that is. See the hunter carries a gun to kill the hog so the dog(s) don't have to hold the animal just get it to quit running long enough for me to get there. And if you stay close to your dogs when your hunting theres no need for them to hold on.

    P.S name me one hunter that would try to put a bullet in a hog while its thrashing and tossing around and the dogs holding on. Good way to shoot a dog.

    Just my two cents.
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